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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Watching in real time I instantly thought dhp bombed that try. Don't see any controversy at all.

    It was a crucial moment in the match, dhp's decision to turn a 95% try scoring chance into '100%' was so so poor.

    The crucial moment was dhp's decision, not the Tmo decision. That was common sense and a zero on the controversy scale. What am I missing?

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Some very poor tackling from starting 11, 12, 13, 14 and the replacement (Naivalu?) wasn't much better

    He was basically anonymous.

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    @broughie who gets dropped for Akira?

    I think he is quite a way off being test ready.

    I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?

    It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.

    Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.

    This just in. Dean "Runslikeya" Mumm has just been cited for striking. c/Radio Sport #eatshityamuppet

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    @barbarian said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    The TMO call was a massive point in the match. I don't think the end result would have been different, but the ABs would have been put in a position they've never been in this year - scores tied or even behind in the second half of a match. Who knows how they would react?

    Like their semi-final against South Africa last year? Or their pool game against Argentina? I think we've seen enough from this team that it can stay in the competition and give itself a chance.

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    @Virgil said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Steve Smith??

    Closer to home.

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    That series of Aussie scrums where we put them under so much pressure they couldn't even hook the ball was impressive

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    Did we ever find out what happened to warrant the penalty after the Aussie try? Tough to whinge about the ref after that call I reckon.

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    @Virgil said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Steve Smith??

    Closer to home.

    Ahh yes, that's right - Michael Clarke isn't away on tour anymore.

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    Thoughts on the All Blacks playing without a goal kicker?

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    zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
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    re Owens, great ref, he made a mistake, it didn't cost us the game. It could be argued that perhaps if the try wasn't disallowed then the shape of the game would have changed, but after we leaked 20+ points at the end, I don't really see it.

    @__Nepia responded__ in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Why did you think he made a mistake? He referred what he thought was illegal play to the TMO. The TMO reviewed the footage and they found that DHP illegally obstructed Savea - which he did.

    What mistake did Owen's make?

    As knowledgeable sports broadcaster Bruce McAvaney used say I think this next bit is "special":

    zed said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    "Not sure of the rules, Savea was never going to make the tackle. If what DHP did is a legitimate offence (shepherding a player in back-play) then the rules need to change."

    which is pretty much "Dunno the law but I don't like it therefore Owens made a mistake and, if that doesn't get a guernsey, the law is dodgy and must be changed to something more to my liking"

    Scroll up is your friend - you will find the rule is expressed ever so simply and that it doesn't complicate matters by inviting assessment of whether a tackle might have been made, or by mentioning shepherding or by offering a waiver if hurt folk don't like it.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Thoughts on the All Blacks playing without a goal kicker?

    One day it might trip us up

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Thoughts on the All Blacks playing without a goal kicker?

    Considering every 10 in the squad is a kicker for their Super teams, whos playing 10? Ben Smith?

    If Beaudy is your 10 as I assume you're referring to his average kicking, that would be Naholo and Savea on the wings, cause Dagg has shown he can kick, and then Ben at fullback?
    If thats the strike-force, then honestly, who gives a rats - coz they've shown they can strike from anywhere and win against Tier 1 sides with minimal possession.
    Hasn't cost us a test match so far, did it cost the Canes at all this year?

    Made this commentary last night - Beauden Barrett has probably only ever been responsible for kicking on Eden Park 4-5 times (a bunch with the Canes, and maybe once previously with the AB's) maybe there are a few nuances on that ground, that he hasn't dealt with yet, Foley missed some even easier kicks than Beaudy, and I thought I recalled the MatchComms suggesting the wind was swirly.

    That said, hes an AB, he needs to do better.

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    Foley and Cruden also struggled but it was actually a very windy evening (Auckland windy, not Wellington windy) so I think conditions were tougher than they appeared

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    And Barrett has an ear infection?

    Still not sold on TJP being our saviour, loving his form but as I said earlier, our close in defence seems to have been better organised with Smith there.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    And Barrett has an ear infection?

    Would tend to fuck up your balance a bit for kicking?

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Thoughts on the All Blacks playing without a goal kicker?

    Wondering about this.

    Beaudy was pretty ordinary in the first part of the Super season. Came right in the ABs camp, but he seems to be regressing.

    I wonder how long the coaches will put up with substandard goal kicking - eventually it will cost us a match, so he needs to sort it - otherwise he'll have to be relegated to super-sub status again.

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    @canefan Aus were warming up in front of us and Foley missed 3 kicks all of similar difficulty/easiness to the one he missed.

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    @taniwharugby I was at the 30m in the South stand watching him too. He took an age over his last practice kick and promptly drew it past the left upright.

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    @antipodean Well that's why I used the phrase 'this year'.

    I don't doubt they would have coped pretty well, but still it would have been nice to see a team put them under the pump for once.

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    @Chris-B. said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

    Thoughts on the All Blacks playing without a goal kicker?

    Wondering about this.

    Beaudy was pretty ordinary in the first part of the Super season. Came right in the ABs camp, but he seems to be regressing.

    I wonder how long the coaches will put up with substandard goal kicking - eventually it will cost us a match, so he needs to sort it - otherwise he'll have to be relegated to super-sub status again.

    General performance from Beaudy has me wondering again how effective he can be when his forwards are getting munched. I didn't see him trying to take control at any point. In fact after the game I realised I could barely remember seeing him.

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