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@Nepia said in Player bios:
@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
I think I read he wasn’t much of a gym guy.
There were frequent references back then about him outperforming some of the forwards in the gym.
I have a feeling his quote was tongue and cheek
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@brodean said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@mariner4life said in Player bios:
@reprobate said in Player bios:
@mariner4life well, it may be a touch harsh. but so is having to listen to him.
oh you'll get no disagreement from me there, but Wilson was a freak of a winger. To have him, Jonah and Cully at the same time was frankly ridiculous.
Except for when Cully is at centre and Wilson is at fullback, which is disastrous. Which partly happened because Tana was so good that year he too had to be selected.
Cully was good at centre. Wilson's leaky defence was the issue.
Oh yeah, Wilson was more of the issue, but Cullen was wasted at centre regardless of how well he performed there. What was also annoying was that a year later coaches clicked that Tana should be the one at centre.
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@Nepia said in Player bios:
@mariner4life said in Player bios:
@reprobate said in Player bios:
@mariner4life well, it may be a touch harsh. but so is having to listen to him.
oh you'll get no disagreement from me there, but Wilson was a freak of a winger. To have him, Jonah and Cully at the same time was frankly ridiculous.
Except for when Cully is at centre and Wilson is at fullback, which is disastrous. Which partly happened because Tana was so good that year he too had to be selected.
They needed Alama at second five to do the shit clean out work and carting the ball up which he did admirably but it was so obvious to everyone back in 99 that the best backline would have been 13 Tana, 11 Jonah, 14 Wilson and 15 Cully.
Not sure how John Hart couldn't see that.
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@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@mariner4life said in Player bios:
@reprobate said in Player bios:
@mariner4life well, it may be a touch harsh. but so is having to listen to him.
oh you'll get no disagreement from me there, but Wilson was a freak of a winger. To have him, Jonah and Cully at the same time was frankly ridiculous.
Except for when Cully is at centre and Wilson is at fullback, which is disastrous. Which partly happened because Tana was so good that year he too had to be selected.
They needed Alama at second five to do the shit clean out work and carting the ball up which he did admirably but it was so obvious to everyone back in 99 that the best backline would have been 13 Tana, 11 Jonah, 14 Wilson and 15 Cully.
Not sure how John Hart couldn't see that.
I think he just wanted Wilson there so that was the only option.
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@gt12 said in Player bios:
How long would Cullen need to wait to get a run under the current coaches?
Well, I don't think we have any Cullens available right now - but on the other hand, there are guys playing a lot worse than Oz ever did who are being retained.
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@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
I think I read he wasn’t much of a gym guy.
There were frequent references back then about him outperforming some of the forwards in the gym.
I have a feeling his quote was tongue and cheek
Whooshed me completely. I always take honest @ACT-Crusader at his word.
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@Nepia said in Player bios:
@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
I think I read he wasn’t much of a gym guy.
There were frequent references back then about him outperforming some of the forwards in the gym.
I have a feeling his quote was tongue and cheek
Whooshed me completely. I always take honest @ACT-Crusader at his word.
I did too until his comment about Cullen at centre.
He would look good there feeding Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton in an all time XV though.
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@gt12 said in Player bios:
How long would Cullen need to wait to get a run under the current coaches?
dude, it's not just the coaches. NZ rugby is OBSESSED with errors. We actively ignore talent because of a perceived weakness or because they make errors trying shit. It's how we end up with a bunch of vanilla worker players who don't try anything for fear of crucifiction.
The only way you are allowed to make errors or miss a core assignment is to have already played 60 tests.
All these amazing talents we will gush over in this thread would never get a look in
Cullen's kicking game is shit and he runs too much.
Wilson celebrates to much, obvious flog and dressing room cancer.
Lomu can't defend or catch high balls.
Tana isn't a distributor.
Walter Little isn't strong enough in the carry.
Zinny kicks drop goals, fuck him off.I say this fully aware i am as bad for it as anyone. Not for the first time, i wish i was French.
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@reprobate said in Player bios:
@gt12 said in Player bios:
How long would Cullen need to wait to get a run under the current coaches?
Well, I don't think we have any Cullens available right now - but on the other hand, there are guys playing a lot worse than Oz ever did who are being retained.
Glen Osbourne ?
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@mariner4life said in Player bios:
@gt12 said in Player bios:
How long would Cullen need to wait to get a run under the current coaches?
dude, it's not just the coaches. NZ rugby is OBSESSED with errors. We actively ignore talent because of a perceived weakness or because they make errors trying shit. It's how we end up with a bunch of vanilla worker players who don't try anything for fear of crucifiction.
The only way you are allowed to make errors or miss a core assignment is to have already played 60 tests.
All these amazing talents we will gush over in this thread would never get a look in
Cullen's kicking game is shit and he runs too much.
Wilson celebrates to much, obvious flog and dressing room cancer.
Lomu can't defend or catch high balls.
Tana isn't a distributor.
Walter Little isn't strong enough in the carry.
Zinny kicks drop goals, fuck him off.I say this fully aware i am as bad for it as anyone. Not for the first time, i wish i was French.
Yes we have become hopelessly conservative to the point that u20s are not allowed in wider training group for SR teams.
Part of what made the ABs excellent was the ruthless culling of players past their best and the promotion of the best talent.
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@brodean said in Player bios:
@mariner4life said in Player bios:
@gt12 said in Player bios:
How long would Cullen need to wait to get a run under the current coaches?
dude, it's not just the coaches. NZ rugby is OBSESSED with errors. We actively ignore talent because of a perceived weakness or because they make errors trying shit. It's how we end up with a bunch of vanilla worker players who don't try anything for fear of crucifiction.
The only way you are allowed to make errors or miss a core assignment is to have already played 60 tests.
All these amazing talents we will gush over in this thread would never get a look in
Cullen's kicking game is shit and he runs too much.
Wilson celebrates to much, obvious flog and dressing room cancer.
Lomu can't defend or catch high balls.
Tana isn't a distributor.
Walter Little isn't strong enough in the carry.
Zinny kicks drop goals, fuck him off.I say this fully aware i am as bad for it as anyone. Not for the first time, i wish i was French.
Yes we have become hopelessly conservative to the point that u20s are not allowed in wider training group for SR teams.
Part of what made the ABs excellent was the ruthless culling of players past their best and the promotion of the best talent.
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@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
I think I read he wasn’t much of a gym guy.
There were frequent references back then about him outperforming some of the forwards in the gym.
I have a feeling his quote was tongue and cheek
Whooshed me completely. I always take honest @ACT-Crusader at his word.
I did too until his comment about Cullen at centre.
He would look good there feeding Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton in an all time XV though.
Catching TSF fish over the past 20+ years has never been so easy…..
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@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@MN5 said in Player bios:
@Nepia said in Player bios:
@ACT-Crusader said in Player bios:
I think I read he wasn’t much of a gym guy.
There were frequent references back then about him outperforming some of the forwards in the gym.
I have a feeling his quote was tongue and cheek
Whooshed me completely. I always take honest @ACT-Crusader at his word.
I did too until his comment about Cullen at centre.
He would look good there feeding Caleb Ralph and Scott Hamilton in an all time XV though.
Catching TSF fish over the past 20+ years has never been so easy…..
Cullen would have been a much better player if he was quicker and trusted his instincts more.
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This is the first time I remember seeing Cullen play. I had to find the match programme as this was a curtain-raiser to a Waikato-Otago NPC game in 1993. There are a few other familiar names in each team, including the current AB coach. I remember that the Northern Region won easily but Cullen was the standout player of the match.
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@Bovidae said in Player bios:
This is the first time I remember seeing Cullen play. I had to find the match programme as this was a curtain-raiser to a Waikato-Otago NPC game in 1993. There are a few other familiar names in each team, including the current AB coach. I remember that the Northern Region won easily but Cullen was the standout player of the match.
Interesting 7 for North.
An observation: Interesting some of the names that came through, more interesting the huge majority who didn't.
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@booboo said in Player bios:
@Bovidae said in Player bios:
This is the first time I remember seeing Cullen play. I had to find the match programme as this was a curtain-raiser to a Waikato-Otago NPC game in 1993. There are a few other familiar names in each team, including the current AB coach. I remember that the Northern Region won easily but Cullen was the standout player of the match.
Interesting 7 for North.
An observation: Interesting some of the names that came through, more interesting the huge majority who didn't.
Expanding on that ... basically the cream of age grade rugby in the entire North Island in a given year, maybe 2 years before they hit senior rugby, and there's 2 (and a half) ABs (and a Flying Fijian).
And I only recognise 6 Provincial level reps:
Collins
Smith
Robertson
Spice
Randle
Cullen
Kerr (added, thanks @Bovidae )
Karauna (also added)
