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    SouthernMann
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    Paul Cully caught up with Joseph to talk about the gig.

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    The results of Joseph and Robertson coached teams will be interesting to track over the next two years. If Joseph takes the Landers from last to semi-finalists or above and has the ABXV humming. While Robertson maintains the up and down results he's been having with the ABs the future for those two will be pretty clear.

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    Hookers
    Brodie McAlister (28 / Chiefs / Canterbury)
    Jack Taylor (22 / Highlanders / Southland)
    Bradley Slater (27 / Chiefs / Taranaki)

    Props
    George Dyer (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)
    Josh Fusitua (24 / Blues / Auckland)
    Benet Kumeroa (25 / Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)
    Siale Lauaki (22 / Hurricanes / Wellington)
    Xavier Numia (26 / Hurricanes / Wellington)

    Locks
    Naitoa Ah Kuoi (26, Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)
    Josh Beehre (23 / Blues / Auckland)
    Isaia Walker-Leawere (28 / Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)

    Loose forwards
    Kaylum Boshier (26 / Chiefs / Taranaki)
    Devan Flanders (26 / Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
    Te Kamaka Howden (24 / Highlanders / Manawatū)
    Christian Lio-Willie (27 / Crusaders / Otago)
    Dalton Papali’i (28 / Blues / Counties-Manukau)
    Sean Withy (24 / Highlanders / Southland)

    Halfbacks
    Folau Fakatava (25 / Highlanders / Hawke’s Bay)
    Kyle Preston (26 / Crusaders / Wellington)
    Xavier Roe (26 /Chiefs / Waikato)

    First-fives
    Josh Jacomb (24 / Chiefs / Taranaki)
    Rivez Reihana (25 / Crusaders / Northland)

    Midfield
    Braydon Ennor (28 / Crusaders / Canterbury)
    David Havili (30 / Crusaders / Ta$man)
    Dallas McLeod (26 / Crusaders / Canterbury)
    Daniel Rona (25 / Chiefs / Taranaki)

    Outside backs
    Chay Fihaki (24 / Crusaders / Canterbury)
    Etene Nanai-Seturo (26 / Chiefs / Counties-Manukau)
    Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (24 / Highlanders / Taranaki)
    Caleb Tangitau (22 / Highlanders / Auckland)

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    Can't be arsed fixing the other thread (it's merged into the generic All Blacks 2025 thread)

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    The All Blacks XV match with Uruguay, which was scheduled to take place in Montpellier on November 16, has been forced to move cities.
    Instead, the match will take place in nearby Béziers due to an ongoing disagreement between French billionaire Mohed Altrad and Montpellier city officials.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360863152/all-blacks-xv-tour-game-moved-after-major-all-blacks-sponsor-stoush

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    Caleb Delaney and Jamie Hannah called up as injury replacements for Naitoa Ah Kuoi and Isaiah Walker Leawere

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    Can't find this weekends game on the sky sport guide as of yet?

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    @Grooter said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    Can't find this weekends game on the sky sport guide as of yet?

    I can't find it on Stan in Oz either, and there doesn't seem to be the live games option on NZR+ anymore which is where I watched at least one of last year's games.

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    @Kiwidom said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    Caleb Delaney and Jamie Hannah called up as injury replacements for Naitoa Ah Kuoi and Isaiah Walker Leawere

    Really short of specialist Locks. That might not be an issue against the Barbarians or Uruguay, but it will be against England A.

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    @Nepia Yeah, it's not listed on NZR+, but the Ireland test is.

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    It's on premier sports over here.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    @Nepia Yeah, it's not listed on NZR+, but the Ireland test is.

    That's on Stan in Oz so not listed on the Oz version of NZR+ at all.

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    @Nepia Gabe Newell (Valve & Steam) lives in NZ. They should be getting advice from him on digital sales and convenience + user experience.

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    Tour Captain Expectation: Christian Lio-Willie
    Reality: David Havili

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    @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    Tour Captain Expectation: Christian Lio-Willie
    Reality: David Havili

    I would expect Papalii before CLW. Will depend on who chooses the captain - Robertson or Joseph.

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    @Bovidae Given there are 30 players, I don't expect any of them to play all three games. Therefore, I think there is a reasonable likelihood of co-captains.

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    @Kiwidom said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    Caleb Delaney and Jamie Hannah called up as injury replacements for Naitoa Ah Kuoi and Isaiah Walker Leawere

    Ugh.

    Two favourites of mine 😞

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    Any update on who may be streaming?

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    @sparky said in All Blacks XV 2025:

    Really short of specialist Locks. That might not be an issue against the Barbarians or Uruguay, but it will be against England A.

    Yeah, I had a similar thought as well, which I tried to work out by sifting through some of the NPC numbers.

    Lineout
    None of Ah Kuoi, Walker-Leawere, Beehre, Delany or Hannah are particularly dominant lineout players, either on their own feed or on opposition ball. Ah Kuoi is probably the biggest threat for opposition ball but his 0.7 steals per 80 minutes during the NPC was behind Wellington’s Akira Ieremia (0.8), North Harbour’s Tristyn Cook (0.9) and Canterbury’s Liam Jack. While the latter only had limited minutes in the NPC (233), he proved to be a big problem for opposition lineouts (1.7 steals per 80 minutes). Jack could be a real player to watch, if he’s able to continue producing these kinds of lineout numbers in the future.

    On own feeds, it is not surprising that tall timber provides the most reliable target. Only three players averaged over 5 lineout takes per game, and 2 out of those 3 were 2m+ (Josh Lord and Will Tucker). Mitch Dunshea of Southland is the other but his proficiency is perhaps more to be explained by Southland’s lack of genuine lineout targets than his own lineout expertise, as Southland had the worst lineout success rate in the comp, at 77%.

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    Lineout might prove to be an issue for the AB XV, without easy banker options like Lord or Will Tucker in the squad

    This lack of lineout proficiency might also explain the inclusion of a player like Kaylum Boshier who is, alongside Devan Flanders, TK Howden and (the unincluded) Jacob Norris, one of the best and most proficient lineout loose forwards in the competition.

    Carrying
    In other aspects of locking play, it will be interesting to see how SR and NPC form can be translated to what is most likely to be tougher opposition. While Walker-Leawere had a real mixed season so far, both at Super Rugby and NPC level, what he does offer is carrying ability, both in terms of number of carries and post-contact metres made. With the Hurricane lock now injured, the carrying onus will most likely fall on a player like Jamie Hannah, who has shown an ability throughout the NPC to make genuine inroads (24.2 post-contact metres made per 80 minutes).

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    With the loss of Walker-Leawere, Jamie Hannah now presents as the main running threat, with Beehre and Delany presenting less of a carrying option

    The question remains whether Hannah will remain as effective against the bigger bodies of international opposition. It makes one wonder whether some heavier players – like Fiti Sa, Aisake Vakasiuola or Akira Ieremia – might not have been an intriguing option, considering their more considerable bulk. Perhaps Ieremia isn’t available due to his Japanese contract but the other two are promising young players who, as the stats show, can already contribute in a specific way. While they are raw in other areas, it might’ve been a good idea to see how they would’ve responded to a more international environment.

    Defence
    While someone like Beehre had a great second half of the SRP season, he wasn’t able to really continue that form for Auckland, making both less carries (8.1) and post-contact metres (15.5) per 80 minutes compared to Super Rugby (11.1 C/80 and 22.2 PCM/80). His defensive involvements were also higher at Super Rugby level, making nearly 15 tackles per 80 minutes for the Blues compared to only 12.8 for Auckland. He will have to show on tour that his not-so-great NPC was just a bump in his rugby road, as there are other players who are making compelling cases with their NPC form.

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    None of the real volume-tacklers were selected for the AB XV, with someone like Shalfoon being perhaps a tad unlucky

    Zach Gallagher stands alone in terms of his defensive involvements per 80 minutes, further emphasizing the great season he had for Canterbury both at lock and at blindside. He’s another, like Ieremia, who was probably not considered due to his Japanese contract. Players like Antonio Shalfoon, Jack Lee and Tristyn Cook also proved to be highly involved defensively, providing a solid rate of dominant tackling as well.

    Looking at the numbers, North Harbour’s Tristyn Cook is an interesting player to keep a watch on for the future. A player like Cook is a fascinating example of how being confronted with certain stats can trigger a case of cognitive dissonance. Whenever I’ve watched Cook play for Harbour this season, I mostly noticed his ill-discipline and lack of breakdown efficacy. And yet, when putting these three graphs next to each other, Tristyn Cook is someone who consistently appears in a positive manner, whether it’s as a lineout threat (0.9 steals per 80 minutes), a carry option (23.9 post-contact metres made per 80 minutes) or as a highly involved defender (over 14 tackles made per 80 minutes).

    That’s not to say that his lack of discipline and his, at times, ineffective physicality aren’t an issue, especially if he wants to focus on blindside. But what it does show is that, if Cook can put on a few more pounds while retaining his mobility and involvements, he could become a very good player, whether it’s in the engine room or amongst the loose forwards.

    Summary
    The selection protocol of the AB XV, when looking at a specific area like lock, seems to mirror the AB selection strategy, which is to pick allrounders rather than specialists. Players like Ah Kuoi, Beehre, Delany, and Hannah are quite solid in most areas without necessarily excelling in a specific area (Walker-Leawere being perhaps the sole exception here).

    If the focus would’ve been on certain areas of excellence, players like Will Tucker (lineout takes), Aisake Vakasiuola (carrying and post-contact metres) and Antonio Shalfoon (dominant tackling) might’ve been selected instead. While it makes players less interchangeable, it has the benefit of clarity in role distribution, with every player knowing exactly what their main responsibilities are.

    Right now, the NZR selection strategy seems to rather work around having all bases covered, instead of targeting particular strengths and weaknesses. It feels like an exercise in raising the floor of performances rather than looking to maximize the team’s ceiling. Whether that’s a particularly wise strategy, I’ll leave that aside until after the tour.

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