Wobblies 2025
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@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
It's fucked that Wallabies based in England like James O'Connor, Tom Hooper and Len Ikitau haven't been released by their clubs to play against England on Saturday.
Outside window?
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@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
But why are the English players from the same clubs released?
Doesn't seem fair. From a New Zealand point of view, we'd always prefer to face the very strongest team another Rugby Nation can put out.
Because they own the theatre
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@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
But why are the English players from the same clubs released?
Doesn't seem fair. From a New Zealand point of view, we'd always prefer to face the very strongest team another Rugby Nation can put out.
Simply because England have an agreement with the clubs (and they're compensated appropriately for it).
Australia have negotiated an extra game with England outside of the international window. Totally agree that any side would want to face the top team available, but you can't just arrange a game whenever suits you and expect everyone to bend to your whims.
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@MiketheSnow So what is international Rugby all about then having the most money or producing the best players and team?
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@Mr-Fish The RFU have arranged for their players best to be available. They should be arranging for the best Australian players at English clubs to be available too.
Fans are playing very good money to watch England Vs Australia, not England Vs (some of) Australia.
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@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
@MiketheSnow So what is international Rugby all about then having the most money or producing the best players and team?
If you leave your home country to make more money then you have to abide by the host country’s rules
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@MiketheSnow And there was me thinking sport was about entertainment and creating great contests.......
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@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
@Mr-Fish The RFU have arranged for their players best to be available. They should be arranging for the best Australian players at English clubs to be available too.
Fans are playing very good money to watch England Vs Australia, not England Vs (some of) Australia.
I personally think that responsibility falls on RA. Similarly, I don't expect NZ to follow the same selection policy as South Africa to give NZ a wider talent pool and create a better contest. If Australia want access to their players outside the agreed window, they can compensate the clubs for it, just as the RFU have.
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@Mr-Fish said in Wobblies 2025:
@sparky said in Wobblies 2025:
But why are the English players from the same clubs released?
Doesn't seem fair. From a New Zealand point of view, we'd always prefer to face the very strongest team another Rugby Nation can put out.
Simply because England have an agreement with the clubs (and they're compensated appropriately for it).
Australia have negotiated an extra game with England outside of the international window. Totally agree that any side would want to face the top team available, but you can't just arrange a game whenever suits you and expect everyone to bend to your whims.
Or RA could come to a financial arrangement with the clubs, but they don't have the cash.
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@NTA said in Wobblies 2025:
Lose? "Pommy bastards colluded to scuttle our chances!"
or, should have cracked a window...
