November Internationals: England
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@Dodge said in November Internationals: England:
shush with the optimism, still think our lock options are not great without Martin available.
But with Tupou Vaa'i and Patrick Tuipolutu out and Fabian Holland and Scott Barrett operating on fumes, neither are ours.
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The Times think England's backline for Saturday will be Mitchell, Ford, Feyi-Waboso, Dingwall, Freeman, Roebuck, Steward.
Steve Borthwick expected to pick Tommy Freeman at No13 against Australia
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I actually just finished saying to Mrs how much I was looking forward to the Autumn series and said I would be watching England etc as, I thought they looked to have some bloody good players. I genuinely interested in most of tests as I liking the fact I buggered if I can confidently say anyone will just win everything, ABs, Boks, Wallabies, Scots, Ireland etc. It going to be good.
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Freeman at 13? Well, it wouldn't surprise me that much. he is, quite rightly rated highly by the coaching staff and you would want him certainly in the 23 if not in that actual run on 15. The thing about sticking him in at 13 though is that 13 is not a problem position for us. Slade is playing very well at Exeter AND was looking very good In Argentina before injury. Lawrence has been tearing it up for Bath this season too. Our problems lie at 12 and 15 and if they gave Freeman a go at 15, I for one would be happy with that. Not saying he can't do a job at 13, just that we don't need him there.
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Interesting piece on England's young x-factor players:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/czr1ye84x4eo
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Just looking at the first few comments on teh article puts things into perspective. Yes they all have their points of difference but even the two most experienced guys - Feyi-Waboso and Cunningham-South are still wet behind the ears Internationally speaking.
A very "British" BBC article - build them up, leaving the door open for another story when they knock them down again.
I hate our media.
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@Catogrande I saw a Daily Mail article yesterday which called Guy Pepper "England's McCaw".
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@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
@Catogrande I saw a Daily Mail article yesterday which called Guy Pepper "England's McCaw".
He could eclipse Pollock
I rate him very highly
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@MiketheSnow said in November Internationals: England:
@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
@Catogrande I saw a Daily Mail article yesterday which called Guy Pepper "England's McCaw".
He could eclipse Pollock
I rate him very highly
Would be quite the feat to play 2 tests.
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personally annoyed that we're going back to George Ford, even if he is playing better than Finn Smith at the moment (which i'm not convinced about). Dingwall & Lawrence should be our centres, Freeman should play wing or fullback (don't want to go back to Steward).
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Will he win play Test Rugby 148 times? Will he will win 89% of those? Will he captain his nation to two World Cup victories? Will he win World Rugby Player of the Year three times? Will he win his hemisphere's Rugby Championship ten times?
If he does, then I'll accept comparisons to the GOAT.
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@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
Will he win play Test Rugby 148 times? Will he will win 89% of those? Will he captain his nation to two World Cup victories? Will he win World Rugby Player of the Year three times? Will he win his hemisphere's Rugby Championship ten times?
If he does, then I'll accept comparisons to the GOAT.
at a minimum i reckon
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@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
Will he win play Test Rugby 148 times? Will he will win 89% of those? Will he captain his nation to two World Cup victories? Will he win World Rugby Player of the Year three times? Will he win his hemisphere's Rugby Championship ten times?
If he does, then I'll accept comparisons to the GOAT.
I think they were comparing the start, not the finish
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What I will say positively about English Rugby is that the depth and range of the playing talent coming through at the moment is remarkable. This last month of Premiership Rugby has been as good as any domestic competition in the world.
I think the possibility of England being the next dominant Rugby power is underpriced.
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@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
@Catogrande I saw a Daily Mail article yesterday which called Guy Pepper "England's McCaw".
I thought that was meant to be curry.
He was going to be better than mccaw apparently
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@DaGrubster I really wish UK Rugby writers could find a way to say "this guy is a good young player", without reaching for frankly ridiculous comparisons.
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@sparky said in November Internationals: England:
I'm a bit concerned about what those English flankers could do to the All Blacks at the breakdown and how much faster the English wings are going to be than the ABs.
Not if Caleb and Leon are selected.
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I have a feeling that the Aussie backs might just embarrass Steward by exposing his lack of manouverabilty.
Agree on Ford, he's been playing well and did very well on the summer tour but 1. he is not the future and 2. His lack of defence will be a liability against a "thinking" team like, oh for instance, Aus.
Plus it looks as though Earl is the replacement if anyone from 11-15 goes down. We are bare bones on the bench.
I've gone from being happy with the wider squad to thinking "oh fuck" with the match day squad. I think it is a very risky selection for all the wrong reasons.
