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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    No way i'd ever pay a transfer fee. But RA obviosly tryin to get the best possible squad together for 27.

    im coming around to the idea the 2027 Rugby is no longer this awesome opportunity for Rugby in Aussie...but more they just want to save face...another poor showing at a home RWC could kill the game

    They just delivered an outstanding Lions series.

    Let's dial down the pessimism.

    The real worry should be 2031 RWC in the USA

    just calling it how i see it on the ground, when it was annouced there was the feeling we'd see a new boom in interest.....but now it feel like theyre still just trying to hold onto the their base

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    No way i'd ever pay a transfer fee. But RA obviosly tryin to get the best possible squad together for 27.

    im coming around to the idea the 2027 Rugby is no longer this awesome opportunity for Rugby in Aussie...but more they just want to save face...another poor showing at a home RWC could kill the game

    They just delivered an outstanding Lions series.

    Let's dial down the pessimism.

    The real worry should be 2031 RWC in the USA

    just calling it how i see it on the ground, when it was annouced there was the feeling we'd see a new boom in interest.....but now it feel like theyre still just trying to hold onto the their base

    They are going to get $100m broadcasting fee from the RWC which will help enormously

    They've just had 7 home tests averaging 53,308 per test

    By all accounts the Bledisloe tv ratings were very strong.

    Aus love a good home sporting festival - as the Lions showed.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      No way i'd ever pay a transfer fee. But RA obviosly tryin to get the best possible squad together for 27.

      im coming around to the idea the 2027 Rugby is no longer this awesome opportunity for Rugby in Aussie...but more they just want to save face...another poor showing at a home RWC could kill the game

      They just delivered an outstanding Lions series.

      Let's dial down the pessimism.

      The real worry should be 2031 RWC in the USA

      just calling it how i see it on the ground, when it was annouced there was the feeling we'd see a new boom in interest.....but now it feel like theyre still just trying to hold onto the their base

      They are going to get $100m broadcasting fee from the RWC which will help enormously

      They've just had 7 home tests averaging 53,308 per test

      By all accounts the Bledisloe tv ratings were very strong.

      Aus love a good home sporting festival - as the Lions showed.

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      Kiwiwomble
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      @KiwiMurph pitty we so little of that at lower levels outside central sydney or Brisbane, they were giving lions tickets away in the days leading up to it

      thats the crux...we need people to more invested than just the big show, i think alsmo anyone can get good turnouts for things like the lions

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      • boobooB booboo

        I didn't look at Gordon and think future superstar. Wonder why they think he's worth so much.

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        @booboo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

        I didn't look at Gordon and think future superstar. Wonder why they think he's worth so much.

        I think it's more of a case of look at the alternatives

        JOC may not even make 2027

        Quade and presumably Foley are done.

        Lynagh has serious injury concerns

        Lolesio had a very serious long term injury this year

        They dont rate Donaldson/He has never knocked down the door

        Edmed has shown very little.

        In the other words the cupboard is bare - Carter Gordon was the best realistic option available to them.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          No way i'd ever pay a transfer fee. But RA obviosly tryin to get the best possible squad together for 27.

          im coming around to the idea the 2027 Rugby is no longer this awesome opportunity for Rugby in Aussie...but more they just want to save face...another poor showing at a home RWC could kill the game

          They just delivered an outstanding Lions series.

          Let's dial down the pessimism.

          The real worry should be 2031 RWC in the USA

          just calling it how i see it on the ground, when it was annouced there was the feeling we'd see a new boom in interest.....but now it feel like theyre still just trying to hold onto the their base

          They are going to get $100m broadcasting fee from the RWC which will help enormously

          They've just had 7 home tests averaging 53,308 per test

          By all accounts the Bledisloe tv ratings were very strong.

          Aus love a good home sporting festival - as the Lions showed.

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          @KiwiMurph

          And all that Lions tour money is already gone.

          Paid off RA debt.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

            @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

            No way i'd ever pay a transfer fee. But RA obviosly tryin to get the best possible squad together for 27.

            im coming around to the idea the 2027 Rugby is no longer this awesome opportunity for Rugby in Aussie...but more they just want to save face...another poor showing at a home RWC could kill the game

            They just delivered an outstanding Lions series.

            Let's dial down the pessimism.

            The real worry should be 2031 RWC in the USA

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            mohikamo
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            @KiwiMurph

            The national union hosting the RWC has to be really careful.

            World Rugby is guaranteed to make a squillion.
            Which is good.

            But not the host union, the French rugby union lost a lot of money hosting in 2023.

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            • M mohikamo

              @KiwiMurph

              The national union hosting the RWC has to be really careful.

              World Rugby is guaranteed to make a squillion.
              Which is good.

              But not the host union, the French rugby union lost a lot of money hosting in 2023.

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              KiwiMurph
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              @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              @KiwiMurph

              The national union hosting the RWC has to be really careful.

              World Rugby is guaranteed to make a squillion.
              Which is good.

              But not the host union, the French rugby union lost a lot of money hosting in 2023.

              Which is presumably why RA took a flat fee from World Rugby of $100m

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @booboo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                I didn't look at Gordon and think future superstar. Wonder why they think he's worth so much.

                I think it's more of a case of look at the alternatives

                JOC may not even make 2027

                Quade and presumably Foley are done.

                Lynagh has serious injury concerns

                Lolesio had a very serious long term injury this year

                They dont rate Donaldson/He has never knocked down the door

                Edmed has shown very little.

                In the other words the cupboard is bare - Carter Gordon was the best realistic option available to them.

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                @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                @booboo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                I didn't look at Gordon and think future superstar. Wonder why they think he's worth so much.

                I think it's more of a case of look at the alternatives

                JOC may not even make 2027

                Quade and presumably Foley are done.

                Lynagh has serious injury concerns

                Lolesio had a very serious long term injury this year

                They dont rate Donaldson/He has never knocked down the door

                Edmed has shown very little.

                In the other words the cupboard is bare - Carter Gordon was the best realistic option available to them.

                So the Wallabies clearly identify their first 5s as an area of concern, yet in Super Rugby they have allowed Carter Gordon to return to the Reds to compete for gametime with other Wallabies First 5 Tom Lynagh while they both probably limit the playing time and development of Harry McLaughlin-Phillips who was looking like being one for the future. To add to it with other signing rumours, Ben Volavola is set to join this group. I can only assume they sought after him as a third first 5 and completed the signing before the news of Carter Gordons return began and when those conversations came they wouldn't say no to signing Gordon.

                The problem I see here for Australia rugby is the distribution. Tane Edmed has gone to Brumbies to replace Lolesio and get a fresh start. Declan Meredith will be behind him with potential. Ben Dono is at the force with Max Burey showing exciting from in the recent Super Rugby AU comp. The team that could benefit from any of the four Reds First 5s are the Waratahs. Jack Bowen has potential but not there yet. I don't see much in giving Lawson Creighton minutes when this could be used to give one of the quality Reds boys playing time. I see Debreczeni starting which is again a shame because despite the fact that I rate him as an handy experienced first 5 option in your squad, ideally the four starting super rugby first 5s in Australia should be the four best players competing for that Wallabies jersey. I see these players for 2026 being Gordon, Lynagh, Donaldson, and Edmed, with Burey and McLaughlin-Phillips being the next cabs. None of these players will be taking a share of the 80 minutes played at first 5 for the Waratahs each week, with at least one of these 6 not even featuring in a match day 23.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @mohikamo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                  @KiwiMurph

                  The national union hosting the RWC has to be really careful.

                  World Rugby is guaranteed to make a squillion.
                  Which is good.

                  But not the host union, the French rugby union lost a lot of money hosting in 2023.

                  Which is presumably why RA took a flat fee from World Rugby of $100m

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                  @KiwiMurph

                  No brainer (for Australia). They cant afford to take any financial risks at the mo.

                  I think France barged in on that WC too. Meant to be SA?
                  Then they got burned, good job.

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                    If RA get a slice of the stadium action they'll come out alright. Aussies love turning up to a sporting event.

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                      Tim
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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360868355/prop-who-played-all-blacks-and-wallabies-retires-professional-rugby

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360868355/prop-who-played-all-blacks-and-wallabies-retires-professional-rugby

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                        Mr Fish
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                        @Tim said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360868355/prop-who-played-all-blacks-and-wallabies-retires-professional-rugby

                        Can only assume his family weren't happy in Queensland. Strange to move over, play once for the Wallabies then retire the following season otherwise.

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                          Bovidae
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                          #5340

                          Hodgman had been injured a lot this year.

                          Interesting to read that Liam Wright is also leaving Qld, and maybe Aust, and that seems down to only being offered a reduced RA contract.

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360893736/australias-players-boss-justin-harrison-takes-aim-joe-schmidts-wallabies-selection-policy

                            Some of the aussies aren't happy with Joe right now

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360893736/australias-players-boss-justin-harrison-takes-aim-joe-schmidts-wallabies-selection-policy

                              Some of the aussies aren't happy with Joe right now

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                              @canefan I wonder how long it will take Campo to burst into life ?

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360893736/australias-players-boss-justin-harrison-takes-aim-joe-schmidts-wallabies-selection-policy

                                Some of the aussies aren't happy with Joe right now

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                                @canefan said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360893736/australias-players-boss-justin-harrison-takes-aim-joe-schmidts-wallabies-selection-policy

                                Some of the aussies aren't happy with Joe right now

                                the tide has turned enormously over here in a very short space of time. After the Lions series and that SA win, there were calls for Aus to throw all the money at him to get him to the World Cup.

                                Now? Joe out Kiss in ASAP

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @canefan said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360893736/australias-players-boss-justin-harrison-takes-aim-joe-schmidts-wallabies-selection-policy

                                  Some of the aussies aren't happy with Joe right now

                                  the tide has turned enormously over here in a very short space of time. After the Lions series and that SA win, there were calls for Aus to throw all the money at him to get him to the World Cup.

                                  Now? Joe out Kiss in ASAP

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                                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                  Joe out Kiss in ASAP

                                  Wallabies supporters wandering calling once again for Joshua to lead them out of the desert to the promised land. And Les isn't the answer - one only has to see how the Reds have underperformed given their squad.

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                                    Choice of coach is totally irrelevant to results for our player base.

                                    BUT some consistency of fail would be nice

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                                      hikastags
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                                      Zac Lomax to the Western Force would be fun.

                                      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/zac-lomax-tours-western-force-facilities-eyes-rugby-move-20251202-p5nk9r.html

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                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/wallaby-lock-darcy-swain-agrees-to-long-term-overseas-move/

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                                          Angus Crichton signing with RA?

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