Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2
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@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Frank said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Our scrum is strong against everyone bar the Boks. Unless we come up with a strategy to negate Wilco Louw, they'll win scrum penalties at will.
Lomax and EDG struggled against the Bok scrum, but things were far better with Newell on.
Louw is a tight head and so is Newell.
More important to ask which of our looseheads can contain him.
The evidence so far is none, neither Williams nor DeGroot.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@His-Bobness said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@kev The Kiwi-born Ireland players demonstrating the tendency of eager-to-please recent immigrants to ape and magnify the worst aspects of the host culture - in this case being obnoxious, petulant whingers with a built-in victim mentality
I think deep down these guys carry a chip with nz because they never got a look in at higher honours and their satisfaction comes with trying to prove a point they were good enough.
Nah, Lowe is the same douche no matter who he's playing.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Social media loves him
#manofthepeople
#peopleschampionFor a guy who never uses his shoulders to tackle, having all of that tape seems like a real waste.
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@Bones said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@kiwiinmelb said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@His-Bobness said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@kev The Kiwi-born Ireland players demonstrating the tendency of eager-to-please recent immigrants to ape and magnify the worst aspects of the host culture - in this case being obnoxious, petulant whingers with a built-in victim mentality
I think deep down these guys carry a chip with nz because they never got a look in at higher honours and their satisfaction comes with trying to prove a point they were good enough.
Nah, Lowe is the same douche no matter who he's playing.
I don't really watch any NH club rugby, but I'm surprised he is still getting picked, just screams washed up journeyman to me. Offers no threat ball in hand and is quite error ridden, only thing he seems to bring to the table is a decent boot which is not that important for a winger. Do they really not have any quick youngsters coming through at all?
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I know Soldier Field is an iconic venue with Lake Michigan on one side and the backdrop of Downtown Chicago on the other, but it was a terrible venue yesterday for a game of international Rugby.
The pitch was in awful condition and too small. The big screens did screen weren't on.
When the ABs play again in the USA, I hope they play somewhere else.
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@mohikamo Although no date is yet set for the building of the new stadium and getting permission to build on Museum Campus is going to be complex.
Chicago is one of 26 US cities alongside one Canadian one which has applied to host 2031 Rugby World Cup games.
The applicant cities are: Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, Birmingham, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cincinnati, Denver, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles Region, Miami, Minneapolis, Nashville, New Orleans, New York/New Jersey, Orlando, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle, St. Louis, Vancouver, and Washington DC.
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An AB game in Salt Lake City would get a decent crowd as would somewhere like San Diego or even Vegas.
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@ACT-Crusader Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia would be perfect. 67,000 capacity venue. Iconic modern stadium. Natural grass pitch. Great transport links.
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I've got to give razor some small credit on yesterday...... The first 60 minutes was dire to watch but......
He got his selections for this match right. When you select the right starting XV and equally as importantly an impactful bench you give yourself a chance to win a match even if you are playing badly because the players can eventually work it out.
I think what is happening on the training paddock is not bearing much fruit but at least his selections appear to be getting better.
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Back to the game ... Williams and Tosi not only won scrum penalties but using their 140 Kgs+ with energy into the rucks allowed to get quick ball, at last, which changed the whole face of the game. Sititi also hit rucks with force. This physicality was something against which the Irish substitutes had no answer. Gus McCarthy is weighing 107 kg, about 40 kgs less than Tosi. Scrum is a technical matter, I know, but McCarthy really struggled at scrum time and was nowhere to be seen in the rucks. Bealham did not fare better against Williams.
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@nonpartizan to play devil's advocate, the two injury replacements early on probably weren't planned...
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@cgrant said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Back to the game ... Williams and Tosi not only won scrum penalties but using their 140 Kgs+ with energy into the rucks allowed to get quick ball, at last, which changed the whole face of the game. Sititi also hit rucks with force. This physicality was something against which the Irish substitutes had no answer. Gus McCarthy is weighing 107 kg, about 40 kgs less than Tosi. Scrum is a technical matter, I know, but McCarthy really struggled at scrum time and was nowhere to be seen in the rucks. Bealham did not fare better against Williams.
There was a shot across the front rows of the bench scrums facing each other in the last 3-5 minutes or so and it really looked like behemoths versus ginger boys who had just learnt how to grow some facial hair. And they looked terrified!
I noticed Tosi seemed slimmed down but still had some serious bulk, he could clear out rucks just by shrugging his shoulders. Almost looked trim next to Williams, who was really enjoying himself. As was Samisoni (the smallest one).
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On the game, I read the thread here before watching the game about 12 hours later and wow. I could hardly tell they were the same thing. Ardie did carry and he did tackle and he was successful in the lineout. Jordan was pebbles and rhinestones but he also cleaned up some dangerous ball and took some great catches. The energy in our midfield was palpable, I was pleasantly surprised how well LF and QT worked together, I wager they're starting next game.
I am no BB fan but he didn't play that badly. I noticed his feints and dummies were totally useless though, he is no running threat compared to DMac but I don't know if that was helped by 20 minutes with 14 Irish on the field. But one thing that really worried me (and was in a previous game) we seem to have no idea of how to maximize overlaps when the opposition have cards.
Their loosies were better than ours (and we were lucky Doris wasn't a starter) but apart from their 9 (who was the best, grumpy back on the park IMO) their backs were a bit blah. Lowe is a strange one, intelligent boot and stupid stupid hands. I thought our wings looked more dangerous.
We do have a serious problem finding a physical 6.
What really pissed me off though were the headlocks* and chokes by quite a few Irish players. Really obvious on camera. Then again, Roigard was being a right fluffybunny to JGP.
Our tackling was still not great esp against their loosies.
My main problem with the ref was his Mr Bean style of English, I had trouble understanding him. And he got in the way of players far too often, surprised he wasn't accidentally bowled over. The touchies were having a laugh on where the ball went out. Either they're Irish supporters or one of us can't gauge trajectories.- Tadhg's leglock on Taylor was blatant.