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    Mr Fish
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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    That seems high as I only remember 3.

    It was either him or Lakai and the lynchpin was that turnover win when we needed it.

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    MiketheSnow
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    DMac, Lord, Clarke

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    DMac, Lakai & Holland.

    Hon mentions to CC, Big Lester & Lord

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    Lakai, DMac and Holland.

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    Those mentioning Fainga'anuku stayed up all night drinking? He's the backs version of Savea who did sweet fuck all again yet both of them are getting fluffed by the commentary team - especially day drinker Marshall.

    Clarke played better in 40mins that most of his teammates in an entire game. His defence cleaning up other people's errors and misses, providing us with opportunities was superb.

    Holland looks all the world a Test lock. Another foundation performance.

    Lakai carried the loose forwards.

    Bench did very well.

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    LF has nearly got as many votes as missed tackles.

    Both locks and DMac for me.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Those mentioning Fainga'anuku stayed up all night drinking? He's the backs version of Savea who did sweet fuck all again yet both of them are getting fluffed by the commentary team - especially day drinker Marshall.

    Clarke played better in 40mins that most of his teammates in an entire game. His defence cleaning up other people's errors and misses, providing us with opportunities was superb.

    Holland looks all the world a Test lock. Another foundation performance.

    Lakai carried the loose forwards.

    Bench did very well.

    CC had a great game, it was unfortunate that he got crocked

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    Find those criticising LF but viting for DMac a little hypocritical.

    DMac: huge miss on Graham, and chase from offside position, offset by three good (ok brilliant) moments on attack.

    LF: some errors on D vs multiple attacking positives.

    In both cases there was bad, but the good outweighed the bad.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    Yeah concerning.

    Lakai and DMac the obvious 2, 3rd one can go to Lord with his nice break to get things going.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Find those criticising LF but viting for DMac a little hypocritical.

    DMac: huge miss on Graham, and chase from offside position, offset by three good (ok brilliant) moments on attack.

    LF: some errors on D vs multiple attacking positives.

    In both cases there was bad, but the good outweighed the bad.

    Yeah that's a fair assessment, but it does also need to be looked at.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    I'm generally baffled that multiple posters have chosen LF. Did they all watch an alternate universe version of the game?

    DMac is the easy one. The locks, Clarke and Lakai to fight it out for the remaining two spots.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    I'm generally baffled that multiple posters have chosen LF. Did they all watch an alternate universe version of the game?

    DMac is the easy one. The locks, Clarke and Lakai to fight it out for the remaining two spots.

    Or perhaps like in the first half like Tony Johnson can’t tell the difference between LF and WS.

    First half LF missed opportunities in attack and defence. Not a contender for me.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    I'm generally baffled that multiple posters have chosen LF. Did they all watch an alternate universe version of the game?

    DMac is the easy one. The locks, Clarke and Lakai to fight it out for the remaining two spots.

    Its because you catch the eye more when you look good on attack as opposed to defence. Most of us know how good Rieko is on defence but obviously looks a bit confused on attack, almost not knowing what his role on attack actually was, where as Leicester can carry very well and has a better overall skillset than Rieko with ball in hand, but his lack of pace out wide and his inability to read the game on defence at this point is a cause for concern, where as Rieko is an elite defender who reads things brilliantly and has pace to turn and chase in the centre role.

    As I said on the game thread, yeah, start Leicester at 13 again next week and give him a run there, but I hope it does get addressed and not just ignored like our deficiancies with the high ball.

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    I'm generally baffled that multiple posters have chosen LF. Did they all watch an alternate universe version of the game?

    DMac is the easy one. The locks, Clarke and Lakai to fight it out for the remaining two spots.

    Or perhaps like in the first half like Tony Johnson can’t tell the difference between LF and WS.

    First half LF missed opportunities in attack and defence. Not a contender for me.

    Turning into this generations Grant Nisbett.

    The circle jerk between him and Marshall when McKenzie scored was very cringy too.

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    Mr Fish
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    @booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Find those criticising LF but viting for DMac a little hypocritical.

    DMac: huge miss on Graham, and chase from offside position, offset by three good (ok brilliant) moments on attack.

    LF: some errors on D vs multiple attacking positives.

    In both cases there was bad, but the good outweighed the bad.

    I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical... Yes, Fainga'anuku did some good things on attack to somewhat outweigh the bad.

    McKenzie changed the game with his plays so while he put in a couple of tackles, New Zeamd absolutely may not have won without his contributions (which I don't think is necessarily true of Fainga'anuku).

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Scotland:

    Lord, DMac, Fainga'anuku

    Seven missed tackles Fainga'anuku?

    Did some very good things with ball in hand but a huge liability on defence.

    I'm generally baffled that multiple posters have chosen LF. Did they all watch an alternate universe version of the game?

    DMac is the easy one. The locks, Clarke and Lakai to fight it out for the remaining two spots.

    Its because you catch the eye more when you look good on attack as opposed to defence. Most of us know how good Rieko is on defence but obviously looks a bit confused on attack, almost not knowing what his role on attack actually was, where as Leicester can carry very well and has a better overall skillset than Rieko with ball in hand, but his lack of pace out wide and his inability to read the game on defence at this point is a cause for concern, where as Rieko is an elite defender who reads things brilliantly and has pace to turn and chase in the centre role.

    As I said on the game thread, yeah, start Leicester at 13 again next week and give him a run there, but I hope it does get addressed and not just ignored like our deficiancies with the high ball.

    Largely agree but I would move Fainga'anuku back to the wing next week with Clarke out. Sooner or later Fainga'anuku is going to cost us defensively in game at centre. He's had years to approve this facet and hasn't remotely improved anything.

    Both he and Jordan are better suited to the wings. Ideally Fainga'nuku is a bench impact guy. Not good enough defensively for centre and not good enough in the air for test wing.

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    ARHS
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    Just watched on delay. Best game I have seen from Clarke. The game changer was Dmac though. Roigard, the loosies and locks all very good too.

    Bit disappointed in the form of Will Jordan and LF. Need to get better with high balls and defensive decisions against England.

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    reprobate
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    The locks and obviously McKenzie for me. Yeah a mistake or two, but so too everyone else who is getting votes, and he basically won that game singlehandedly with us under huge pressure - so if you didn't vote for him, go and have a look at your biases, then give yourself an uppercut. And if you're Scott Robertson, FFS start him, and give yourself two.

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