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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to taniwharugby last edited by
    #103

    @taniwharugby What exactly happened that it wasn't only a 20 minute card? Was it ruled to be sufficiently dangerous or especially foul play, or does France not have 20 minute reds?

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    @taniwharugby I still try to figure out what Lood was thinking? Ramos throw the ball to him and maybe he blinked his eyes at that moment.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @Tim I think even with a 20 min red, there is still the option of a straight red.

    Lood def looked to have lined him up, but given how low Ramos was, that is a huge amount of mitigation not considered.

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    replied to hikastags last edited by
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    @hikastags

    Rassie is so much smarter than our guy.
    Probably a better surfer too.

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  • TimT Away
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    @taniwharugby From a replay it was clear that Gardiner ruled it as worthy of a full game red due to severity of the incident. Will be interesting to see how judiciary panel reviews it.

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    @MN5 said in France vs Springboks:

    @nostrildamus said in France vs Springboks:

    @MN5 said in France vs Springboks:

    @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

    Last night test is up there with the Wellington one.

    AE switching between forwards and backs is another Rassie master stroke . The Bulls fatties also were outstanding in the second half.

    SFM again MOTM performance. He make things happen even from 15 and the main reason for the Springboks improvement since winning the WC.

    Hard to get to sleep last night after this test.

    Based off an Eddie Jones idea supposedly.

    Oct 31  /  Sport

    Earl, Esterhuizen and what hybrid players tell us about the future of rugby

    Earl, Esterhuizen and what hybrid players tell us about the future of rugby

    As versatility and power-packed benches continue to define international rugby, could the sport become even more position-less in the future?

    Depending on how long Ardie continues to play I think NZ need to get him or Sititi to cover 12 ( if its the latter pairing with Leicester Fainga’anuku then Tony Johnson will have kittens in the commentary box )

    or LF into the loosies...

    The possibilities are limitless. They could swap from scrum to scrum and lineout to lineout. Endless fun.

    you do know Leicester was also tried in the forwards in Europe?
    TBH , that isn't one of our glaring weaknesses that a part-timer with a serious hairdo can fix.

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    No mitigation for the red card because tackle was always illegal with the tucked arm. Gardiner was very good IMO. Great game, well done Boks

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @nostrildamus said in France vs Springboks:

    @MN5 said in France vs Springboks:

    @nostrildamus said in France vs Springboks:

    @MN5 said in France vs Springboks:

    @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

    Last night test is up there with the Wellington one.

    AE switching between forwards and backs is another Rassie master stroke . The Bulls fatties also were outstanding in the second half.

    SFM again MOTM performance. He make things happen even from 15 and the main reason for the Springboks improvement since winning the WC.

    Hard to get to sleep last night after this test.

    Based off an Eddie Jones idea supposedly.

    Oct 31  /  Sport

    Earl, Esterhuizen and what hybrid players tell us about the future of rugby

    Earl, Esterhuizen and what hybrid players tell us about the future of rugby

    As versatility and power-packed benches continue to define international rugby, could the sport become even more position-less in the future?

    Depending on how long Ardie continues to play I think NZ need to get him or Sititi to cover 12 ( if its the latter pairing with Leicester Fainga’anuku then Tony Johnson will have kittens in the commentary box )

    or LF into the loosies...

    The possibilities are limitless. They could swap from scrum to scrum and lineout to lineout. Endless fun.

    you do know Leicester was also tried in the forwards in Europe?
    TBH , that isn't one of our glaring weaknesses that a part-timer with a serious hairdo can fix.

    In typical fashion the Scots were the first to come up with this stroke of genius.

    They might struggle to beat the All Blacks but they can't be beat when it comes to innovation

    https://www.scotsman.com/regions/scotland-international-capped-as-both-forward-and-back-to-retire-80882

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    I don’t see how it could’ve been anything else but a RC.

    France got way too loose at times instead of being a bit more patient with the mountain of ball they had. Boks gave them plenty of opportunities too as they kicked a lot of ball away and I thought their defence was a little porous at times.

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in France vs Springboks:

    I don’t see how it could’ve been anything else but a RC.

    France got way too loose at times instead of being a bit more patient with the mountain of ball they had. Boks gave them plenty of opportunities too as they kicked a lot of ball away and I thought their defence was a little porous at times.

    Their defence? Boks or the French?
    What really impresses me about the Boks isn't their lack of mistakes but their ability to solve them by the next game. They do seem to have pressure points but it will take a clever coach and team to keep hitting them there.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Of all the international sides they’re the ones constantly and consistently evolving

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  • D Offline
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    Wow. Boks were amazing. Fair play, I know nothing about rugby.

    Definite red IMO, yes ramos dropped which would have mitigated if it was a normal tackle but with the arm tucked and leading with the shoulder Gardiner had no choice

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  • SmutsS Offline
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    What makes this bok team so satisfying to support is that they see the Red as an opportunity to do something legendary.

    You can trust that whatever hole they find themselves in, the Doc, his Irish drinking buddies, our pet Kiwi, Sticky & the conditioning guys are back there coming up with a strategy that gives us a chance. You guys are now getting an abject lesson in how frustrating it is to play in or support a team which not only can’t problem solve in realtime doesn’t even realize it ought to be trying to (which has been the default for Bok coaching teams since Mallet got the chop.)

    Helps that we’ve also got players who have the skills, cunning and often just raw guts to take that chance.

    Which was why it was so cool to see the Coaches besides themselves with joy on the sideline as the Boks slid the dagger in.

    I’ve no doubt that it’s not a coincidence that our scrummies scored tries off edge snipes. Or that after about 20 minutes in the second half in which the Boks reverted to QF midrange bombs all of sudden Siya & Eben were on their feet yelling at their mates that the Bleus were fucked, couldn’t take the pace so it was time to turn up the heat.

    Most of all, it was awesome that Sasha’s try came off a reverse of a set up that looked exactly like Eben’s try from the QF (and which the boks used in the first half which the French snuffed out by getting more forwards round the corner faster than the boks.)

    As Carwyn James loved telling his players: It’s a thinking man’s game, boyos. Sure Carwyn but it helps if you’ve got big nuts and bigger props.

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