England v All Blacks
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Chessum and Freeman a doubt for Saturday. Foot injury and hamstring respectively. Both are pretty much nailed on starters so quite a loss, although I would counter that with the fact that Alex Coles really stepped up last week and we should have Roebuck back as well.
Full back is the one area where I feel Borthwick has yet to make up his mind. M Smith will be chasing and probably dropping high balls all over the place as NZ will target him. Steward is unlikely to have another howler under the high ball as he did v Aus, but is ponderous in defence and not a lot quicker in attack. I'm guessing Borthwick will roll the dice and play Daly there.
@Catogrande Freeman will be a loss if he’s unavailable. Would Cheesman start? Don’t think he’s in your top 2 locks.
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Vaa'i was defensively poor at blindside. Both from a workrate point of view, positioning and accuracy. Also I dont think hes quick enough off the mark. That said I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to him
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Even if Scooter is back to near full fitness, why would you start him? Holland, Darry and Lord haven't let anyone down and seem eager for work
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@canefan of course they'll start him, probably with Holland and Lord dropping to bench.
@taniwharugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan of course they'll start him, probably with Holland and Lord dropping to bench.
Yup. Nothing like not being match fit, back from injury, and starting in our toughest game on tour. Oh and being a card magnet
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@Chris-B
1973, 1983, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2012 and 2019 in more recent history. Plus of course Prince Obolenski's match in 1936 - see, we were poaching even back then.
@Catogrande 1973 as well - it really was a sequence!
I'd forgotten about 2002, which was the tour that Christian Cullen enjoyed so much. I think Ben Cohen gave us quite a lot of trouble in that game!
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my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
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my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
@mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:
my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
Ben Blair. Ugh sigh
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my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
@mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:
my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
Kinghorn probably thought he was going to do that to McKenzie to be fair
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Blair was running in quicksand that day. I think the best footy Blair played was after he left NZ. But I digress
The 02 and 03 losses were heartbreakers and looking back were against the best England side in our lifetimes!
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If you think about some of the props, locks and loosies we haven't had over the past 5 years, at the moment everyday is a good day.
@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
If you think about some of the props, locks and loosies we haven't had over the past 5 years, at the moment everyday is a good day.
Foster had his shortcomings but he was brave to bring Vaa'i and Lord into the environment as 20 yr olds, those selections bearing fruit for the nation nowadays
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I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
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I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Itoje probably played the match of his career. Curry and Underhill were dynamite.
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@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
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@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
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@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Itoje probably played the match of his career. Curry and Underhill were dynamite.
@brodean said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Itoje probably played the match of his career. Curry and Underhill were dynamite.
What was so impressive was the way they just refused to lose. The problem is they can put out a performance like that … only every few years.. lucky for the rest of us.
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@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
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@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
It was a good game to lose considering the path after that….. it all went according to plan….
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@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
It was a good game to lose considering the path after that….. it all went according to plan….
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
It was a good game to lose considering the path after that….. it all went according to plan….
ah so the card imbalance was planned then. Noted.
