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England v All Blacks

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @Chris-B "completely diffuse" is a bit of hyperbole on my part but he's easily our best under the high ball. As per my post in another thread, I don't like the way chasers are allowed to just jump up and slap it back without a genuine attempt to catch it, makes it unfair on the person fielding the kick.

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    @No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

    @Chris-B "completely diffuse" is a bit of hyperbole on my part but he's easily our best under the high ball. As per my post in another thread, I don't like the way chasers are allowed to just jump up and slap it back without a genuine attempt to catch it, makes it unfair on the person fielding the kick.

    It would be interesting to do a detailed season-wide analysis of catching high balls to verify who is best (and worst). Not just a raw score of catches and drops - but, looking at catches in traffic and outcomes compared with expected outcomes - some sort of rational scoring system and commentary.

    Unfortunately, it would probably require "someone" to watch all the games again. Maybe he (or she!) can do it next year! ๐Ÿ™‚

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      @Chris-B that's not how I do things on the Fern, I base my analysis on vibes and feelings, and if someone corrects me with data I demand they be BANNED!

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

        @Chris-B "completely diffuse" is a bit of hyperbole on my part but he's easily our best under the high ball. As per my post in another thread, I don't like the way chasers are allowed to just jump up and slap it back without a genuine attempt to catch it, makes it unfair on the person fielding the kick.

        It would be interesting to do a detailed season-wide analysis of catching high balls to verify who is best (and worst). Not just a raw score of catches and drops - but, looking at catches in traffic and outcomes compared with expected outcomes - some sort of rational scoring system and commentary.

        Unfortunately, it would probably require "someone" to watch all the games again. Maybe he (or she!) can do it next year! ๐Ÿ™‚

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        @Chris-B said in England Vs All Blacks:

        @No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

        @Chris-B "completely diffuse" is a bit of hyperbole on my part but he's easily our best under the high ball. As per my post in another thread, I don't like the way chasers are allowed to just jump up and slap it back without a genuine attempt to catch it, makes it unfair on the person fielding the kick.

        It would be interesting to do a detailed season-wide analysis of catching high balls to verify who is best (and worst). Not just a raw score of catches and drops - but, looking at catches in traffic and outcomes compared with expected outcomes - some sort of rational scoring system and commentary.

        Unfortunately, it would probably require "someone" to watch all the games again. Maybe he (or she!) can do it next year! ๐Ÿ™‚

        No need, 3 groups.
        Clarke is best, Jordie a close 2nd.
        Then McKenzie, then Beauden, then Jordan.
        Then Ioane, Carter and Reece.

        Our main problem though is that the other teams kicks are far more contestable than ours, and their attacking chase and defence of are better organised.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

          This All Blacks team is screaming for some X-Factor on the wing.

          For me that's Will Jordan. He really doesn't have the skills to be a Test 15.

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          @Victor-Meldrew I could get in behind that... but not sure Love is the superstar fullback to offset it.

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          • R reprobate

            @Chris-B said in England Vs All Blacks:

            @No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

            @Chris-B "completely diffuse" is a bit of hyperbole on my part but he's easily our best under the high ball. As per my post in another thread, I don't like the way chasers are allowed to just jump up and slap it back without a genuine attempt to catch it, makes it unfair on the person fielding the kick.

            It would be interesting to do a detailed season-wide analysis of catching high balls to verify who is best (and worst). Not just a raw score of catches and drops - but, looking at catches in traffic and outcomes compared with expected outcomes - some sort of rational scoring system and commentary.

            Unfortunately, it would probably require "someone" to watch all the games again. Maybe he (or she!) can do it next year! ๐Ÿ™‚

            No need, 3 groups.
            Clarke is best, Jordie a close 2nd.
            Then McKenzie, then Beauden, then Jordan.
            Then Ioane, Carter and Reece.

            Our main problem though is that the other teams kicks are far more contestable than ours, and their attacking chase and defence of are better organised.

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            @reprobate I jotted down the kick results for Boks 1.

            They were quite a lot different to that, but one game has very little statistical value.

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              Any rumours for the team this week?

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                Any rumours for the team this week?

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                @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                Any rumours for the team this week?

                Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

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                  Fuck what a move ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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                    Does that mean De Groot shifts to first five

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      Any rumours for the team this week?

                      Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

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                      @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                      Any rumours for the team this week?

                      Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

                      Too scared of a lineout against Emma.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                        @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                        Any rumours for the team this week?

                        Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

                        Too scared of a lineout against Emma.

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                        @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

                        @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                        @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                        Any rumours for the team this week?

                        Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

                        Too scared of a lineout against Emma.

                        https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15356829470608861764

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          Any rumours for the team this week?

                          Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

                          Too scared of a lineout against Emma.

                          https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15356829470608861764

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                          @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          Any rumours for the team this week?

                          Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard

                          Too scared of a lineout against Emma.

                          https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15356829470608861764

                          It's good that you read the thread before posting.

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                              Bovidae
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                              Rieko is definitely on the outer.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                Rieko is definitely on the outer.

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                                @Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                Rieko is definitely on the outer.

                                Heโ€™ll play against Wales for sure.

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                                  ALB sucks as a bench option

                                  Gets a bench spot

                                  Make it make sense....

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    ALB sucks as a bench option

                                    Gets a bench spot

                                    Make it make sense....

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                                    @KiwiMurph Says more about them not trusting LF or RI as 12 cover. They should have been bold and gone with a 6:2 split too.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Rieko is definitely on the outer.

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                                      @Bovidae Leinster must be wishing theyโ€™d signed Proctor instead.

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                                        frugby
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                                        Think this team is fairly telling. Sititi to the bench says they are wanting to match England for impact. ALB offers no punch, tend to agree on a 6-2 split, but given the injuries, not sure I'd have Kirifi.

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                                          Gonna need another FIIDIM myself performance from DMac to pull this one out.

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