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    @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Well done England, you didn't do much but you didn't have to.

    Credit to Steve Borthwick. Bringing back George Ford was a brave call, but it was rewarded today.

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    A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.

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    @jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Taylor is the only player from the older generation that is worth his salt. BB, Savea, ALB, Scott Barrett all need to go. Jordie can stay for now.

    It’s been 10 years of the same old shit. Zero composure

    Beauden Barrett was never composed, even at his peak. Once the juice in his legs went he should have been ushered off to Japan to earn yen for Hannah and co.

    5 fucking years ago.

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    @Canes4life what tough calls??? He should just step down. Thats the only call to make. Worst AB side...the 3 worst performances I have ever seen. No passion...no heart...no gameplan.

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    @frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

    A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.

    The culture's not right. Where does the buck stop for that?

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    Where the fuck do we go from here??

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    Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.

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    What I also don’t understand, is that the attacking patterns at the start of the season looked so slick. And then after 3-4 games, they stopped doing it.

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    England peaking between world cups. Meanwhile containers of dry powder has been discovered at the Port of Auckland.

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    @Young-Hamiltons said in England Vs All Blacks:

    @Canes4life what tough calls??? He should just step down. Thats the only call to make. Worst AB side...the 3 worst performances I have ever seen. No passion...no heart...no gameplan.

    When we used to be 12-0 down under McCaw id think we were still in it.

    When we are ahead by 12 with this mob I think we will still lose.

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    Really hope that's the last game Savea starts.

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    @cgrant said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.

    We were worse in 1998.

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    @frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

    What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.

    We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.

    Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.

    I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.

    Leicester and Tupaea are miles ahead of Rieko.

    Dmac is miles ahead of Beauden, Dmac didn't get to play with Roigard like Beauden got to in the first half.

    The step down from Roigard is massive. Without his boot we end up getting stuck in our 22.

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    @sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

    @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Well done England, you didn't do much but you didn't have to.

    Credit to Steve Borthwick. Bringing back George Ford was a brave call, but it was rewarded today.

    Bonesey is sick.

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    34- 19 FFS!

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    @sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

    @cgrant said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.

    We were worse in 1998.

    The fact it is a debate is the damning thing.

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    @Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:

    Where the fuck do we go from here??

    Give Dave Rennie a call.

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    Is that a record loss?

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    @kpkanz said in England Vs All Blacks:

    @frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

    What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.

    We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.

    Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.

    I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.

    Leicester and Tupaea are miles ahead of Rieko.

    Dmac is miles ahead of Beauden, Dmac didn't get to play with Roigard like Beauden got to in the first half.

    The step down from Roigard is massive. Without his boot we end up getting stuck in our 22.

    Expect Leicester and Tupaea can’t tackle

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    @Tim Nope. That was 2012.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/20534229

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