England v All Blacks
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@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.
"Our basic skills" translates to selecting a first five that couldn't win a Beauden Barrett lookalike contest and a captain with the resolve of a teaspoon of sugar. I could do better.
Sure, but that lets soooo many others off lightly.
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Our attack shape is horrible.
The players (outside of the has-beens) are all there.We genuinely have the worst attacking shape in international rugby.
Why does Scott Barrett handle the ball every time we go to the backs with his delayed pivot pass that is moronicly predictable? WHY?
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@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Tim Nope. That was 2012.
Nooo that must be some AI. That says the ABs had Jane and Nonu, Conrad and McCaw, Mealamu and Whitelock. And this was Hansen basically photocopying Henry’s playbook. I thought they were ruthless and calm and well coached.
Tuilagi and Barrit ripped us a new one that night.
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This game once again highlights that Josh Jacomb simply had to get out of the Chiefs. I have no idea if the guy is the answer, but we need multiple young 10s playing week in week out. Instead you’re going to see DMac, BB, Brett Cameron, and whoever the Highlanders serve up playing the majority of the minutes at 10. It’s insane to me NZR didn’t step in.
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@Fale009 said in England Vs All Blacks:
Razor needs to show some balls and drop a fair few of his veterans. He won't though because you get the feeling that he's coaching for his job at the moment. The fact that we've gone an entire year without even blooding another 10 just speaks volumes about how much of a pussy Razor is.
That you J? Or little bro?
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@Tim said in England Vs All Blacks:
Think it's time to put a line through B Barrett, Savea, ALB, Kirifi, Proctor, and Ratima. Just not very good.
Parker mediocre.
You just reminded me that Parker was playing today.
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South Africa dont give a fuck about the Currie Cup. There main focus is the boks. Brutal forward pack build to dominate. A kicking game with runners create chaos. Simple but affective. No forwards with behind the back play just up the guts. Fuck this is so frustrating.
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@ACT-Crusader Rumour has it some of the guys went and saw the Rolling Stones on the Sunday before that Test and some of them got invited to the band's after party and were still feeling the effects a few days later.
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@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.
"Our basic skills" translates to selecting a first five that couldn't win a Beauden Barrett lookalike contest and a captain with the resolve of a teaspoon of sugar. I could do better.
Sure, but that lets soooo many others off lightly.
I struggle to see how selection isn't a major issue that sees "sooooo" many others not even involved.
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@Dan54 said in England Vs All Blacks:
Well it a bit strange. I not feeling absolutely gutted (disappointed of course), I just don't think this AB team is good enough to really deserve a Grand Slam and go into the ranks of the good teams that have done it.
I remember thinking at the time 2008 grand slam team was a much weaker side than usual, but what I would give for them now!!
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@Bones And that's why I'm not that upset.
Better leadership, especially at First Five, and we are a comfortably better team.
The evidence and the solution have been starring this coaching panel in the face for some time.
This is fixable next year, if there is a will to do so.
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BB, SB, Savea time to move on. Time to rebuild before it gets worse. Passengers like ALB and a few others need to finish up too.
Build a team around Roigard as Captain and take it from there and weed out the rest over the next year.
Parker, Proctor and possibly even Carter haven't stepped up unfortunately.
Front row and locks mostly ok.
Find a safe old school no.10 and look for flair elsewhere. Midfield is tough, no one standing out. -
@cgrant said in England Vs All Blacks:
Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.
I don't think so.
I think the game plan and captaincy is very weak.