England v All Blacks
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@Dan54 said in England Vs All Blacks:
Well it a bit strange. I not feeling absolutely gutted (disappointed of course), I just don't think this AB team is good enough to really deserve a Grand Slam and go into the ranks of the good teams that have done it.
I remember thinking at the time 2008 grand slam team was a much weaker side than usual, but what I would give for them now!!
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@Bones And that's why I'm not that upset.
Better leadership, especially at First Five, and we are a comfortably better team.
The evidence and the solution have been starring this coaching panel in the face for some time.
This is fixable next year, if there is a will to do so.
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BB, SB, Savea time to move on. Time to rebuild before it gets worse. Passengers like ALB and a few others need to finish up too.
Build a team around Roigard as Captain and take it from there and weed out the rest over the next year.
Parker, Proctor and possibly even Carter haven't stepped up unfortunately.
Front row and locks mostly ok.
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@cgrant said in England Vs All Blacks:
Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.
I don't think so.
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@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bones And that's why I'm not that upset.
Better leadership, especially at First Five, and we are a comfortably better team.
The evidence and the solution have been starring this coaching panel in the face for some time.
This is fixable next year, if there is a will to do so.
I don't care about next year.
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@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
@cgrant said in England Vs All Blacks:
Is it the weakest AB side of the professional era ? I am tending to think so.
I don't think so.
I think the game plan and captaincy is very weak.Yes agreed, overall mentality is very weak.
The first 30 minutes should have seen us build a lead that England would have been unable to come back against.
But they went in st half time the happier team.
We are poor
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Haven't seen a TV yet.
What was the yellow for.
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@hikastags said in England Vs All Blacks:
Ratima was poor when he came on.
Not sure what's happened with him as he used to give quick ball and get it out without thinking. Now he pisses around and slows the tempo.
Should be Fakatava on the bench.
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Ruben Love clocking up air miles to watch Beauden Barrett do a rugby equivalent of Karaoke.
That’s gold and
on point ,
Did’nt the Blues win a super title without Barrett ?
The obsession with BB is beyond comprehension , he is now way more rocks than diamonds , does’nt challenge the line eitherTheres question marks on both the coach and the skipper for mine theres a few that just need to be moved on including the skipper as a previous poster said some of the old brigade needs to be moved on starting with Scooter and Beauden
Cody Taylor still deserves his place and should be the skipper imo
Ardie has been really quiet on this tour but i’m unsure in terms of an out and 7 where we go atm
Possibly Lakai or Du Plessis Kirifi ? or does Dalton Papallii come back into the pictureI have no idea why the midfield combo of Tupaea and Faianganuku was changed , i have seen nothing in Proctor to suggest hes an international 13 for all the critique Reiko Ioane had about his lack of ability to put his outsides away at least he could defend
I thought this test was an ideal opportunity to unleash Caleb Tangitau but once again they changed combo who looked good in the game against Scotland
Personally i cant see NZ Rugby changing the coach out , but will the coach have the fortitude to make some tough calls .?
With the RWC only just under 2 years away if NZ Rugby needed to make a change it needs happen right happen at the end of this tour. -
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Guys I am from SA. I dont know NZ rugby politics. All I know is when Steve Tew were is charge NZ dominated on and off the park. What happened? The worst thing that could have happened was to announce Robertson when Foster was still in charge. When good coaches leave NZ and go on to make other nations competitive. I am just dumstruck
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@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
We've all forgotten about getting fucked over by the officials because we were so shit.
To be fair, they fucked England over a couple of times too.
I'm struggling to think of worse officiating of a Test in a long time.
