England v All Blacks
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Is this the first year that no AB has been nominated for mens player of the year??
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@Young-Hamiltons said in England v All Blacks:
Is this the first year that no AB has been nominated for mens player of the year??
If you were picking a world 15 , I can’t remember a time when there would be so few allblacks in it .
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@mikey07 said in England v All Blacks:
So a little bit of inside knowledge from a source there’s tremendous friction in the camp (don’t know what about they wouldn’t spill) and that after that loss to England in the weekend Scott Barrett was on the verge of tears in the changing sheds.
You'd have to think there is a terminal problem with harmony within the group, either between the coaches, the coaches and players, the players themselves, or a combination. Even in Fozzie's darkest hours there did not appear to be cracks within the group themselves. Or at least no one broke ranks.
The bold play will be to bin the coaching group and at least salvage some of the wider player group, install someone for two years who can at least rebuild some esprit de corp within the team. I'm not sure NZR have the balls or the appetite for that
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@mikey07 said in England v All Blacks:
So a little bit of inside knowledge from a source there’s tremendous friction in the camp.
This rumour has been doing the rounds since August at least. If anyone has any precise details, I'm all ears.
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@mikey07 said in England v All Blacks:
Scott Barrett was on the verge of tears in the changing sheds.
May sound stupid, but good for him. Indicates passion.
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@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
I'm not sure NZR have the balls or the appetite for that
Or the money, possibly.
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@mikey07 said in England v All Blacks:
Scott Barrett was on the verge of tears in the changing sheds.
I'd expect nothing less from an All Blacks captain in the circumstances.
One of the All Black great strengths over the years is that they fucking hate losing.
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@Tim said in England v All Blacks:
@mikey07 said in England v All Blacks:
Scott Barrett was on the verge of tears in the changing sheds.
He seems like a good guy who shouldn't be in that position.
Hes definitely got that Taine Randall look right now
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@reprobate said in England v All Blacks:
The way Jordan stopped running when Darry threw him a bad pass looked very much like 'fuck these useless fluffybunnies, I'm not cleaning that up'. Not a good look, especially from someone strong on the shit pass himself.
I didn't notice that during the game but if you're right, disharmony within the group or not, that is piss poor from a professional player.
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@reprobate said in England v All Blacks:
The way Jordan stopped running when Darry threw him a bad pass looked very much like 'fuck these useless fluffybunnies, I'm not cleaning that up'. Not a good look, especially from someone strong on the shit pass himself.
Got a time in the game?
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@booboo said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate said in England v All Blacks:
The way Jordan stopped running when Darry threw him a bad pass looked very much like 'fuck these useless fluffybunnies, I'm not cleaning that up'. Not a good look, especially from someone strong on the shit pass himself.
Got a time in the game?
76:35
It's the English try to Roebuck after Pollock toe-d it through
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I do think that the players that have been selected should be playing better than they are. That fault lies squarely on the coaching setup. If the rumours are true, there doesn't seem to be a lot of trust within the group, and that is borne out on the field. In the offseason there needs to be a no holds barred exit process, including confidential feedback from the players. Identify the problems in the team and make proper changes
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@Young-Hamiltons said in England v All Blacks:
Is this the first year that no AB has been nominated for mens player of the year??
Three Boks have, that seems a lot
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@sparky said in England v All Blacks:
@Dodge England are a damn good side at the moment. Lots of balance to their game, they are really well drilled and confident in what they are doing, they have threat in so many aspects of their play, young guys like Feyi-Waboso, Pollock and Pepper are coming on leaps and bounds at the moment.
The Triple Crown, the Six Nations Title and the Grand Slam are all realistic objectives for England in the spring and making the Nations Championship final and the World Cup Final beyond that.
There was no shame in losing to England.
What there was deep shame in for the All Blacks was the manner of the defeat and the performance that proceeded it. We were way off.
We beat England reasonably comfortably in all 3 games last year. This manner of win shows that England have clearly improved while we have either stagnated or gone backwards.
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@brodean said in England v All Blacks:
@sparky said in England v All Blacks:
@Dodge England are a damn good side at the moment. Lots of balance to their game, they are really well drilled and confident in what they are doing, they have threat in so many aspects of their play, young guys like Feyi-Waboso, Pollock and Pepper are coming on leaps and bounds at the moment.
The Triple Crown, the Six Nations Title and the Grand Slam are all realistic objectives for England in the spring and making the Nations Championship final and the World Cup Final beyond that.
There was no shame in losing to England.
What there was deep shame in for the All Blacks was the manner of the defeat and the performance that proceeded it. We were way off.
We beat England reasonably comfortably in all 3 games last year. This manner of win shows that England have clearly improved while we have either stagnated or gone backwards.
I don't remember them being that convincing
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@brodean said in England v All Blacks:
@sparky said in England v All Blacks:
@Dodge England are a damn good side at the moment. Lots of balance to their game, they are really well drilled and confident in what they are doing, they have threat in so many aspects of their play, young guys like Feyi-Waboso, Pollock and Pepper are coming on leaps and bounds at the moment.
The Triple Crown, the Six Nations Title and the Grand Slam are all realistic objectives for England in the spring and making the Nations Championship final and the World Cup Final beyond that.
There was no shame in losing to England.
What there was deep shame in for the All Blacks was the manner of the defeat and the performance that proceeded it. We were way off.
We beat England reasonably comfortably in all 3 games last year. This manner of win shows that England have clearly improved while we have either stagnated or gone backwards.
Reasonably comfortably? What?
The ABs scraped home at Eden Park last year vs England due to the bench and the ABs were very lucky not to lose at Twickenham last year - Telea's match winning try only occurred because Beauden got subbed off due to injury (so Telea came back on the field after being subbed off). Combine that with George Ford having a shocking bench appearance for England and they missed two late chances to win it themselves (missed penalty which hit the post and a missed drop goal).
Edit - and the opening test of Razor's tenure the ABs won by 1 point in Dunedin.
