England v All Blacks
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@Jet said in England v All Blacks:
I just relistened. He said they are notorious for not letting people in to their dressing room. But they come into yours. They didnt swap after Chicago. Conor Murray tells the story of how it was O'Mahoney going in to get McCaws jersey after the 60-0 drubbing in Hamilton in 2012 and Nonu refused him entry.
Sounds like complete horseshit to me. McCaw's AB's were known for getting together with the opposition - giving presentations to new caps playing against them and post-match public presentations to opposing players reaching 100 Tests (Habana, Slipper, AWJ etc)
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@Victor-Meldrew did McCaw play in 2016?
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@Jet said in England v All Blacks:
Its like Kolisi with his arm around young Sititi saying "im so proud of him".
Kolisi should be spat out the back of a ruck covered in stud marks. We dont need your patronage mate
Jeez mate, better turn your TV off right after the final whistle. You'll be shocked by the number of players hugging the opposition.
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@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew did McCaw play in 2016?
He did in 2012 which is what Conor Murray is referring to.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England v All Blacks:
@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew did McCaw play in 2016?
He did in 2012 which is what Conor Murray is referring to.
So AWJ isn't who I think it is?
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I can see where Jet is getting annoyed. I think most of us would agree being friendly with the opposition, the odd photo and social media post is fine, after a top quality performance on the field. And that’s the issue - some of these guys are walking around during games like they couldn’t care less, seem like they’re not worried following a loss and don’t go into the next game with a point to prove. There are a few factors contributing to this but it’s painful to watch.
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@Jet said in England v All Blacks:
This is why we are where we are.
There is no edge.
I listened to a podcast recently where Conor Murray told an anecdote from his new book of how he tried to go into the Allblacks dressing room to get a jersey swap and Ma'a Nonu was stood outside eating.
He turns to Murray and says "where are you going?" "eh I was going in to swap a shirt" "you're not going in there.
I think that story is total bollocks.
The All Blacks are famous the Rugby world over for their hospitality after the game.
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Yeah, I'm equally annoyed with heartless performances of late.
But I'd be more annoyed if the players added to that shitty-ness by not fraternising with the opposition
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England v All Blacks:
@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
And Slipper isn't Ben Slipper?
No. His brother Clutch
I'm really struggling to reconcile someone calling another post horseshit when their own post talks about RM celebrating players hitting their hundred after RM retired, in some cases many years. What am I misreading?
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@Victor-Meldrew There's a long passage in McCaw's book that says his attitude was before and during the game it was binary. Your job was to win and make the opposition lose.
After the game, you're all Rugby players together and it's time to forge friendships.
Long may those values continue. The game is bigger than any player, even the
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@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England v All Blacks:
@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
And Slipper isn't Ben Slipper?
No. His brother Clutch
I'm really struggling to reconcile someone calling another post horseshit when their own post talks about RM celebrating players hitting their hundred after RM retired, in some cases many years. What am I misreading?
The original post
"Conor Murray tells the story of how it was O'Mahoney going in to get McCaws jersey after the 60-0 drubbing in Hamilton in 2012 and Nonu refused him entry.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England v All Blacks:
@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England v All Blacks:
@Bones said in England v All Blacks:
And Slipper isn't Ben Slipper?
No. His brother Clutch
I'm really struggling to reconcile someone calling another post horseshit when their own post talks about RM celebrating players hitting their hundred after RM retired, in some cases many years. What am I misreading?
The original post
"Conor Murray tells the story of how it was O'Mahoney going in to get McCaws jersey after the 60-0 drubbing in Hamilton in 2012 and Nonu refused him entry.
Your response.
McCaw's AB's were known for getting together with the opposition - giving presentations to new caps playing against them and post-match public presentations to opposing players reaching 100 Tests (Habana, Slipper, AWJ etc)
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Well that was an argument that polarised things wasn't it?
FWIW, my two pennyworth.
Win, lose or draw. You act with dignity. You don't decide whether to swap shirts, have a beer or a chat with the opposition dependent upon the result or how sulky your fans might be in their judgement of your "commitment".
The Nonu story? I don't know if it is true or not but from what I have come to expect from the man, it was firstly, unlikely and secondly if it was true then he would have had a good reason to be that unreasonable.
The TikTok dance thing: well it turns out that the TikTok dances were actually fines for whatever made up misdemeanours hade been judged upon, the Freeman one got exposure whereas all the others got binned pretty quickly. In today's SM world, once it's out there, then it's out there.
The Savea floor sweeping? Haven't seen it, don't want to see it, but if it is an "official" AB fluff piece that is on NZR and not on Savea.
In short boys and girls, have a bit of understanding, judge the guys on their performances by all means but let them be normal guys after the game.
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@SammyC said in England v All Blacks:
Colin meads used to make a point of taking beers into the opposition sheds after the game
yeah but what did he know about being a hard fluffybunny
