New All Black Coach
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@canefan said in New All Black Coach:
@African-Monkey said in New All Black Coach:
@game_film said in New All Black Coach:
Be interesting to see how Razor would go coaching the ABs when the Scott Hansen era ends.
Yeah will be interesting because he does come across as a guy who likes having his own men that he trusts by his side as opposed to having guys chosen for him. He seems like a man that wants full control.
If he wants full control, then why does he let Hansen essentially coach the team?
His choice though isn't it?
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@African-Monkey said in New All Black Coach:
@canefan said in New All Black Coach:
@African-Monkey said in New All Black Coach:
@game_film said in New All Black Coach:
Be interesting to see how Razor would go coaching the ABs when the Scott Hansen era ends.
Yeah will be interesting because he does come across as a guy who likes having his own men that he trusts by his side as opposed to having guys chosen for him. He seems like a man that wants full control.
If he wants full control, then why does he let Hansen essentially coach the team?
His choice though isn't it?
Yeah I suppose. And his consequences to accept
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When are.they looking to announce the replacement for Holland?
Who are suitable and available candidates?
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@taniwharugby said in New All Black Coach:
When are.they looking to announce the replacement for Holland?
Who are suitable and available candidates?
If I recall they didn't say there definitely would be a replacement. They might just rearrange duties with the guys they've got
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@canefan so rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
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here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
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@taniwharugby said in New All Black Coach:
@canefan so rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
If there are no serious changes at board level by the end of the year the coaching team will consist of razor Hanson and Ryan...
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@mariner4life said in New All Black Coach:
here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
W JordanAaah bro that's nasty, that hurts my head.
Kirk's stand against touring SA back in the day suggests he has the backbone to ask questions of a slightly more diverse group. I'd fucken hope. -
@mariner4life said in New All Black Coach:
here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
W JordanWill it be live-streamed on Instagram?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in New All Black Coach:
@mariner4life said in New All Black Coach:
here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
W JordanWill it be live-streamed on Instagram?
Yup, with Siya Kolisi standing in solidarity with his boy Ardie.
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@jimmyb said in New All Black Coach:
I personally look at some of the posts here about Kirk being able to fix it with the same trepidation as I had when Razor was announced and everyone was announcing him as the saviour. I certainly hope that Kirk can make enough change to bring the organisation to a professional level of competency, but the same things being said about him as the man to fix things were said about Razor over the last few years.
Difference with Kirk is he has a proven track record of being a hard arsed and very astute businessman. He was CEO of Fairfax Media in Aussie and worked at McKinsey, and anyone who’s worked with McKinsey knows that most of their graduates are usually ruthless little shits.
Kirk is probably one of the better options NZ rugby has. He also has the social credit of winning a World Cup.
All excellent points, as also made by @Victor-Meldrew
However, we had plenty of people reading razor’s CV as a justification for him being the man to turn it around.
I want to make it clear that I hope Kirk will, and that I think he is the right person.
However, with the organization of NZ rugby I also wonder whether it is captured by different interests who can’t get in alignment. I hope I’m wrong on that but the ongoing ridiculousness of our domestic game is one example. I don’t necessarily see how one competent leader will be enough. I hope it is.
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@African-Monkey said in New All Black Coach:
@Victor-Meldrew said in New All Black Coach:
@mariner4life said in New All Black Coach:
here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
W JordanWill it be live-streamed on Instagram?
Yup, with Siya Kolisi standing in solidarity with his boy Ardie.
Whilst this made me laugh hugely I think Ardie would get more leeway for being BFFs with Kolisi if he was pulling his weight more as a player.
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@mariner4life said in New All Black Coach:
here's a cool scenario.
The review of the coaching staff is conducted by the NZRU. Players are interviewed to have their input. the players chosen to interview are senior:
A Savea
B Barrett
S Barrett
W Jordanyoure fucking with us right? thats just insane, might as well also include Razor's mum
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@Victor-Meldrew only after he was secretly filmed saving a kitten.
Those are the guys who should be most comfortable speaking truthfully, but won't, younger guys like Love, Lakai, Proctor etc al won't be able to speak truthfully of the process for fear of upsetting someone.
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@taniwharugby said in New All Black Coach:
@Victor-Meldrew only after he was secretly filmed saving a kitten.
Those are the guys who should be most comfortable speaking truthfully, but won't, younger guys like Love, Lakai, Proctor etc al won't be able to speak truthfully of the process for fear of upsetting someone.
A bit like the players who came out in support of Foster. The guys who he was selecting and wanted to keep hm around to secure their spot in the team.
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@taniwharugby said in New All Black Coach:
@canefan so rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
If what we believe to be the state of things is correct, what competent coach is going to willingly come into that environment, do all the shit work and watch as Razor takes the credit?
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@Victor-Meldrew Speaking of Instagram, Savea and Sititi hanging out with a few of the England players in Dubai. Surprised Kolisi isn't with them.
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@MacDazzler said in New All Black Coach:
@Victor-Meldrew Speaking of Instagram, Savea and Sititi hanging out with a few of the England players in Dubai. Surprised Kolisi isn't with them.
also the "guy that Damien McKenzie threw into the stands at Murrayfield"
( Blair Kinghorn )
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@MacDazzler who do you think took the pic!
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@mohikamo said in New All Black Coach:
@Victor-Meldrew said in New All Black Coach:
The 70's were really, really bad - at one stage we lost nearly 70% of Test matches over 2 successive years - but I've never seen an AB team so lacking in fight as this year's model.
Definitely a step down from the 60's. The 60's were mega.
But not "really, really" bad.
A bit of a similar situation to right now in someways.
Bad coaching decisions included.The majority of games were played away.
Two series were in SA, and we know how the saffas were always going arrange them. Both series were well fought even-so.The bad losses came at home.
I'd say the 3rd test in 71;
the England game in 73 (really, really bad, probably one of the ABs worst ever losses); and
the 78 loss to the Aussies at Eden Park (the Aussies hadn't beaten us for a very long time, and played out of their skins).Away
Home
I'd say the Bastille Day massacre in 1979 was up (down?) there with those bad ones.
