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[MN5]

@Duluth said in NH Club Rugby:

@MN5

Age? He's 28. The players you listed are 28, 26, 26, 26 & 28

28 is young by AB midfield standards

I was thinking along the lines of outside backs who traditionally are done and dusted before the age of 28.

Even so, it will be tough for him to get back in under the current regime.

[cgrant]

Tom Jordan is excellent at 1st Five for Bristol. How could his talent be ignored by NZ provincial teams ?

[taniwharugby]

@cgrant he went to an 'unfashionable school'? and seems he left fairly early on in his career.

[Bovidae]

Jordan left for Scotland in his early 20s. When he played for Hamilton Old Boys, Sevu Reece was a club teammate, which highlights how long ago that was.

I'm not sure if he made any Auckland or Blues age-group rep teams. BTW, Cam Christie also went to Orewa College, so that shouldn't have been a disadvantage if he was good enough.

[Nepia]

@Bovidae said in NH Club Rugby:

Jordan left for Scotland in his early 20s. When he played for Hamilton Old Boys, Sevu Reece was a club teammate, which highlights how long ago that was.

I'm not sure if he made any Auckland or Blues age-group rep teams. BTW, Cam Christie also went to Orewa College, so that shouldn't have been a disadvantage if he was good enough.

Yeah, sometimes, especially when guys leave young, they're just overlooked for not being good enough at the time. A year later he might have got his break.

[taniwharugby]

@Nepia or it is just a different style or coach that gets the best out of them.

[W32]

Bulls lose by about 50 to Northampton Saints. Jeeze. Ackerman making Jake White look good. Sucks.

[OomPB]

The Stormers are still unbeaten heading into the Saffer derbies. Dobson investing in local talent start paying dividends. And it look good if you look in what's waiting to come through the pipeline.

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/european-cup/dobsons-smart-management-puts-stormers-in-pole/

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[Bones]

Imagine my rage if we had two Jordans in the ABs.

[OomPB]

@Bones the Stormers have SMZ, Willemse and Gelant. Had Libbok aswell. To many cooks spoiled whatever. SMZ is good enough.

[Bones]

@OomPB said in NH Club Rugby:

@Bones the Stormers have SMZ, Willemse and Gelant. Had Libbok aswell. To many cooks spoiled whatever. SMZ is good enough.

Yeah.

[cgrant]

French annual salaries in the Top 14 by position :

LHP : 245 000 euros
Hooker : 247 000 euros
THP : 260 000 euros
Lock 4 : 290 000 euros
Lock 5 : 302 000 euros
LF : 242 000 euros
Nr. 8 : 296 000 euros
Halfback : 261 000 euros
1st Five : 343 000 euros
Centres : 274 000 euros
Wings : 223 000 euros
Fullback : 251 000 euros

[Nepia]

@cgrant said in NH Club Rugby:

French annual salaries in the Top 14 by position :

LHP : 245 000 euros
Hooker : 247 000 euros
THP : 260 000 euros
Lock 4 : 290 000 euros
Lock 5 : 302 000 euros
LF : 242 000 euros
Nr. 8 : 296 000 euros
Halfback : 261 000 euros
1st Five : 343 000 euros
Centres : 274 000 euros
Wings : 223 000 euros
Fullback : 251 000 euros

Is that average? Also, I thought TP were supposed to be the best paid in the norf? Also, weird that the locks have a big difference, and why are LF paid relatively so low?

[cgrant]

This is the average salary, of course. I do not have the explanations for these differences. I also thought - like you did - that THP was one of the top salaries.

[gt12]

@cgrant said in NH Club Rugby:

This is the average salary, of course. I do not have the explanations for these differences. I also thought - like you did - that THP was one of the top salaries.

This is where averages probably lose out to medians, quartiles, and ranges. If all teams are carrying a bunch of props, but two or three are on much higher wages and the others on the lowest, the average will look similar but the reality could be much different. The situation for locks could also be similarly skewed by fewer of them and a couple on very big contracts.