Ashes 2025/6
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@game_film said in Ashes 2025/6:
@sparky come on mate that survey’s a joke. Tennis FFS. Who they kidding.
Crawley, Pope and Duckett not good enough. And they’re 2 top line bowlers short. That’s about it.
Fielding has been sub-par. Catches win matches and England have dropped too many, too often.
So, aside from batting, bowling and fielding...
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@nzzp said in Ashes 2025/6:
@game_film said in Ashes 2025/6:
@sparky come on mate that survey’s a joke. Tennis FFS. Who they kidding.
Crawley, Pope and Duckett not good enough. And they’re 2 top line bowlers short. That’s about it.
Fielding has been sub-par. Catches win matches and England have dropped too many, too often.
So, aside from batting, bowling and fielding...
Yeah, this looks to be a deeper issue than simply a poor approach or skills. It looks like a degree of mental fragility backed up with some intransigence on strategy and a dash of muddled selection.
When your main strike spinner is not trusted and you fall back on a guy that has been tried and found wanting purely to bolster your batting (Hmmm...) - it's not really teh Stokes/McCullum blueprint is it? Then back this up by having your two front line pace bowlers being known for breaking down, with one not having played any recent cricket on his way back from yet another injury, it does not inspire much confidence or suggest that the hierarchy have any great confidence themselves.
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@Catogrande preach.
And I am not pointing fingers. Australia does funny things to boards and coaches. Remember when we picked Ferguson, for debut, in Aus, where he would be needed to bowl long spells ... and he broke down early? I do.
This is where the feeder comps are so important. Every Aus player has to battle to get to the top. Shit fielding doesn't get tolerated and deficiencies generally get exposed. Compare with most national sides - some people get a ride without really having to deliver at the lower levels - so figuring out your game at the top level can happen.
Aus have done this recently and it has not gone well for them. Their comps seem a shadow of what they were - and we see this come out in Super too (to threadjack to Rugby)
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@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:
My own view is that this is a nothing burger.
England thought it was a wicket so appealed. The on-field umpire gave Alex Carey not out. Carey admitted in the press conference that he felt something but he's under no obligation to walk and I'd encourage a player not to walk unless he's 100% certain he should be out and even then it's his choice.
England used a review, but the technology deployed didn't give sufficient evidence to overturn the on-field decision. So the TMO went with the umpire's decision.
Snicko's less good than the system used in England, but that's hardly news.
Indians had right idea when they refused to use the DRS/snicko or anything. It still not guaranteeing correct decisions it seems.
Also agree , Carey not in wrong, it's up to individual if they walk or not, some do some don't. -
@nzzp said in Ashes 2025/6:
@Catogrande preach.
And I am not pointing fingers. Australia does funny things to boards and coaches. Remember when we picked Ferguson, for debut, in Aus, where he would be needed to bowl long spells ... and he broke down early? I do.
This is where the feeder comps are so important. Every Aus player has to battle to get to the top. Shit fielding doesn't get tolerated and deficiencies generally get exposed. Compare with most national sides - some people get a ride without really having to deliver at the lower levels - so figuring out your game at the top level can happen.
Aus have done this recently and it has not gone well for them. Their comps seem a shadow of what they were - and we see this come out in Super too (to threadjack to Rugby)
Yeah - it's very hard to beat Oz, because they can usually field eleven strong test players and four or five world class players. Their batting line-up at the moment is a little bit suspect, but it goes so deep that until you get rid of Starc, there's always someone there who can shepherd them to a solid score - and people like Smith and Carey are fucking hard to get rid of. With their bowling line-up a solid score is usually going to be enough.
You look at our team and Little Kane would take Inglis' spot. Mitch Jr. might be competitive for another batting spot (Marnus'- if Kane bats three), but far from guaranteed. Does one of our openers edge Weatherald? No-one else from our team makes the best Australian XI.
Disappointing that England hasn't been able to put up a better fight, but they came here last summer and beat us 2-1 - which doesn't bode well for our four tests in Oz next year, despite that 2-1 was aided and abetted by the Tim Southee Farewell Tour.
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...and from England, Root takes Marnus' spot, Brook takes Inglis'spot - and I'd take Stokes over Green. Maybe Duckett over Weatherald? Pretty much the same as NZ - our best batsmen supplant their worst.
You might briefly look at Archer vs Hazlewood, but nah...
Bold call making Green the highest paid ever overseas IPL player. Doesn't immediately spring to mind as an alltime MVP.
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The interesting thing is this Australian lineup is that it is about as 'fragile' as an Aussie side ever gets at home.
No Smith or Hazlewood, some soft top order shots, and currently they can't dislodge Stokes and Archer. Yet are still ahead in the game by a long way (for now)...
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Marnus being Marnus..
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:
Archer over Boland probably - but neither are displacing a fit Hazlewood...
Matt Henry competitive with Boland for us, but not Hazlewood.
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@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Marnus being Marnus..
"I’d step on my stumps just to get away from it."
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:
@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Marnus being Marnus..
"I’d step on my stumps just to get away from it."
I would be asking him if he could get me the hamburger he was describing in the break
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:
@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Marnus being Marnus..
"I’d step on my stumps just to get away from it."
That got me too
He comes across as really fucken odd doesn’t heHe must get on his team mates wick as well surely
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Eng will be happy if they can reduce that deficit below 100 from where they were
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@bayimports Will give them a tiny window to win - a somewhat better chance of a draw.
Both still pretty slim chances in my book. With Lyon vs Jacks and bowling last, Oz appear to have the trump card.
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@Chris-B said in Ashes 2025/6:
@bayimports Will give them a tiny window to win - a somewhat better chance of a draw.
Both still pretty slim chances in my book. With Lyon vs Jacks and bowling last, Oz appear to have the trump card.
think they are a spin bowler short myself
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Now THIS is the Adelaide i am used to
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Thata boy Archer, absolutely carrying England this match. Crawley, Duckett, Pope, take note of how your best bowler has shown you how to bat in a test match.
