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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Maybe he's a good T20 buy. But Cameron Green must be one of the lowest averaging Test number 5s for Australia - 34.

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    Wonder if Khawaja has done enough to save his Test career at the expense of Green, when Smith is back.

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    @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:

    Maybe he's a good T20 buy. But Cameron Green must be one of the lowest averaging Test number 5s for Australia - 34.

    Most overrated cricketer since Shane Watson.

    He must have a hell of an agent.

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    270+ is already more than England are going to make batting 4th. Head and Carey have done well here.

    How long until the declaration?

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    Green is turning out to be a bit of a myth really. They are desperate to make him a top order player without any real justification. That record might fly if he was batting at 7 and bowling a lot.

    He'll keep his spot because Inglis has done nothing to keep his, but Webster must be feeling a bit gipped.

    He'll also keep his spot because he's in his 20s

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    @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:

    Wonder if Khawaja has done enough to save his Test career at the expense of Green, when Smith is back.

    Inglis will go. If they are smart they will drop Green to 7.

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    Point for discussion. Are there no top quality test players under 30? Starc, Head, Carey, Archer, Root, Stokes have been the standout players so far and all over 30. Is the focus on T20 producing a generation that can't bat or bowl for long? Answers on a postcard

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Australia solves it by rarely picking anyone under 30 now.

    On stats, Henry Nicholls would walk into the Aussie #5 spot...

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    I think yes. They have all the shots but don't know when to use them. I think the riches on offer and the fact that young players can really only make money on the T20 tour is playing the patience out of them.
    Guys who are happy to hit the top of off over and over (not a great trait in T20)
    Guys who are happy to bat time when needed.

    Throw in there are only three nations that play bulk test cricket and this is where you get to

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    Travis Head is a way better player than his record suggests, and that is probably a black mark against him. He'll go through real lean patches of pretty 30-odds and then peel of a succession of good hundreds. An aveage of almost 43 isn't shithouse, but you watch the ease with which he scores, and how tough he seems, and the shot selection he possesses, and it should probably be 5 better.

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    I think T20 is so pervasive now on TV and streaming, a few of us increasingly curmudgeonly junior helpers are seeing changes in how players of all ages approach batting.

    A reverse sweep to a hattrick ball in Intermediate grade cricket last Saturday being one of many little things. I shudder to think how many dozen laps of the field that would have resulted in back in the 90's 🙂

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    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2025/6:

    Point for discussion. Are there no top quality test players under 30? Starc, Head, Carey, Archer, Root, Stokes have been the standout players so far and all over 30. Is the focus on T20 producing a generation that can't bat or bowl for long? Answers on a postcard

    The ECB have handed late July and August (the time when the weather and pitches are most suitable for cricket) over to The Hundred which is an even shorter game than T20.

    Longer cricket formats such as T20, 50 overs and 4 day county games have been pushed to the edges of the season when weather and pitches are more variable to the clear detriment of the development of the England national teams.

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    Head and Carey just walking down the pitch at Jacks at will.

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Two most obvious things England can do to make themselves more competitive for the next Ashes tour to Australia.

    1. Play some warm-up games in Australia's to acclimatise to local conditions.

    2. Work hard on catching. Dropped catches have killed them in this series.

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  • G Offline
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    If they wanted Jacks in to bat deeper they could have had him replace one of the top 3 and had Bashir as well.

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    Alex Carey becomes the first keeper ever in an Ashes game to score a century and a 50 in the same test.

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    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2025/6:

    Point for discussion. Are there no top quality test players under 30? Starc, Head, Carey, Archer, Root, Stokes have been the standout players so far and all over 30. Is the focus on T20 producing a generation that can't bat or bowl for long? Answers on a postcard

    With Australia, it's hard to tell.

    They've got 15 guys in their squad and only Green is under 30.

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    Our first test squad vs Windies was 11-3 with the under-30s, Ravindra, Foulkes and Smith.

    By test 3 we have Ravindra, Foulkes, Phillips and Clarke.

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    With everybody fit it's probably Ravindra, Philips, O'Rourke and maybe one of Smith or Sears.

    On top of that we have Fisher, Hay and Mariu who are on the outskirts of the squad, Foulkes who's currently in the squad but I don't think has done enough to displace the guys currently injured. Curtis Heaphy also showing promise at domestic level.

    An all under 30 side:
    Mariu
    Heaphy
    Matt Boyle?
    Ravindra
    Tim Robinson
    Hay
    Phillips
    Smith
    Foulkes
    Sears
    O'Rourke

    Bowling is okay, struggled a bit for batting. I don't see anyone who looks ready to bat at 3. Finn Allen obviously a factor in white ball, but took Robinson ahead of him for tests since Robinson is actually playing plunket shield and doing well.

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