West Indies tour of NZ
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Why are we bowling Phillips?
Surely Rae or Foulkes are more likely to knock Seales over quickly?
Well, to his credit he pulled off a terrific boundary saver just then. He's an absolutely outstanding fielder. Probably best in the world.
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My boy Rae comes on and finishes Roach!
Have a rest for a few hours lads.
So, according to me we need to bat normally for about a session and then play increasingly aggressively for another session. Set them about 400 in 3.5 sessions and hope to knock them over cheaply.
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
My boy Rae comes on and finishes Roach!
Have a rest for a few hours lads.
So, according to me we need to bat normally for about a session and then play increasingly aggressively for another session. Set them about 400 in 3.5 sessions and hope to knock them over cheaply.
It's a pretty harsh truth that he is more than likely playing his last test.
I've really liked his attitude and he has shown he belongs at this level. In pretty much any other era he would have had a long career but dare I say it there is some depth in NZs fast bowling stocks and a host of good players to come back.
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 Yeah - rankings probably something like:
Henry
Jamieson
O'Rourke
Duffy (he's been impressive and jumped up the list)
Sears
Tickner
Fisher
Foulkes (can swing the ball a mile in the right conditions, but shades of Lance Cairns for me)
RaeLooks more or less right, Jamieson despite the incredible average just hasn't played enough to usurp Henry from the top of the list.
I'd probably rate Tickner ahead of Sears.
No Smith ?
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Yeah all fit and firing you'd have Henry, Jamieson and O'Rourke as lock ins with perhaps Smith and Foulkes battling for that "all rounder" spot.
But Jacob Duffy has been excellent, Tickner too in his brief appearance at the Basin.
Patel is obviously in the equation too, also Santner vs Phillips......
Once all are back and taking into account Raes age he'll go back in the wilderness which seems a shame.
I hope enough of them are fit for the tests next year.
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@MN5 If Phillips plays, I reckon he needs to bat at 6.
At 7 he seems to think his job is to have a bit of a tonk, rather than playing as a proper batsman.
I'm not convinced either Smith or Foulkes are good enough batsmen to warrant playing them ahead of guys who are better bowlers.
If a pitch will assist spinners, I'd pick:
Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Santner, Jamieson, Henry, O'Rourke.
If it won't:
Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Jamieson, Henry, Duffy, O'Rourke.
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 If Phillips plays, I reckon he needs to bat at 6.
At 7 he seems to think his job is to have a bit of a tonk, rather than playing as a proper batsman.
I'm not convinced either Smith or Foulkes are good enough batsmen to warrant playing them ahead of guys who are better bowlers.
If a pitch will assist spinners, I'd pick:
Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Santner, Jamieson, Henry, O'Rourke.
If it won't:
Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Jamieson, Henry, Duffy, O'Rourke.
Same here. It seems to be a bit of a worldwide phenomenon to pick guys who are handy at both at the expense of guys who are better bowlers and/or batsmen.
The NZ squad seems to have quite a few of these.
I like your teams, Top five absolutely pick themselves. Conway has done more than enough this series to push Young down the pecking order. If Hay takes over fulltime and I hope he does soon then his record would indicate he should be batting at six with the option of Philips leap frogging him if quick runs are needed.
If either of your teams played I'm fairly sure NZ would have won the series 3-0 pretty easily.
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@MN5 Phillips for me is a batsman who can bowl - similar to Ravindra and Mitchell.
He's not playing like it when they bat him at seven.
His place is under threat (in my team) because I want him to bat with more starch and less cavalierly.
Having him bat at six might change this mindset a bit.
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 Phillips for me is a batsman who can bowl - similar to Ravindra and Mitchell.
He's not playing like it when they bat him at seven.
His place is under threat (in my team) because I want him to bat with more starch and less cavalierly.
Having him bat at six might change this mindset a bit.
The danger at 7 is he has limited partners to feel that he can bat for a long time
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@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 Phillips for me is a batsman who can bowl - similar to Ravindra and Mitchell.
He's not playing like it when they bat him at seven.
His place is under threat (in my team) because I want him to bat with more starch and less cavalierly.
Having him bat at six might change this mindset a bit.
He's not in their class as a batsman ( NZ are very lucky to have both of them ) but a better bowler than either of them so definitely much more of an all-rounder than they are ( ridiculous that the player profiles list them as all-rounders but I digress....)
But how do you justify a guy averaging 48 in first class Cricket batting at seven ?
I guess Adam Gilchrist was pretty handy at doing just that.
