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Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel

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  • MN5M MN5

    @akan004 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    Why has Bird not been given the call up? Is he injured?

    He's clearly slipped down the pecking order

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    @MN5 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    @akan004 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    Why has Bird not been given the call up? Is he injured?

    He's clearly slipped down the pecking order

    ffs.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @westcoastie said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

      Team naming tomorrow? Probably in the evening NZ time.

      Will take a stab at it...
      Front Row: Moody, Coles, Crockett
      Locks: Tuipolutu, S.Barrett
      Back Row: Kaino, Cane, Read
      Halves: Smith & Cruden*
      Midfield: Cruden & Lienert-Brown
      Back three: Savea, Dagg & B.Smith

      Bench: Faumuina, Taylor, Crockett, Squire, Savea, Perenara, B.Barrett*, Fekitoa

      I reckon they go the #1 starting lineup possible in this first test, especially with our makeshift backrow - geez looks thin without the Twin Towers.
      Lot of work going into scrummaging and line-out this week I'd expect - I wonder if we'll see a little less set-piece work from us - and willingness to keep the ball in a little more - actually having no Retallick and Whitelock ironically might provide us some extra spark, those two have usually carried a ton of work up to this point in the year.

      Have put Barrett back off the bench, partially to reward Cruden, to let Barrett freshen up some - I think the coaches will keep an eye on Dublin and Paris, and want to blitz those teams, so spelling him a bit this week, and then next week means Barrett should be cherry ripe physically and mentally for the last two.

      Smith-Cruden is a good combo for each other coming back in.

      I would actually like to see what Fifita can do on international stage, just give him a license to Smash into anything green.

      I'll bite ...

      Two looseheads
      Cruden playing both five-eighths. Does that make him a five-quarter?

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      @booboo wow. thats some shocking work on my behalf ain't it...

      O.Franks to start.

      1. Crotty. Clearly.
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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @booboo not to mention the swap of Smith and Dagg...

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        @taniwharugby Clearly we all know B.Smith the #1 #15. It just took Hansen a little bit to realise it.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @westcoastie said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

          Team naming tomorrow? Probably in the evening NZ time.

          Will take a stab at it...
          Front Row: Moody, Coles, Crockett
          Locks: Tuipolutu, S.Barrett
          Back Row: Kaino, Cane, Read
          Halves: Smith & Cruden*
          Midfield: Cruden & Lienert-Brown
          Back three: Savea, Dagg & B.Smith

          Bench: Faumuina, Taylor, Crockett, Squire, Savea, Perenara, B.Barrett*, Fekitoa

          I reckon they go the #1 starting lineup possible in this first test, especially with our makeshift backrow - geez looks thin without the Twin Towers.
          Lot of work going into scrummaging and line-out this week I'd expect - I wonder if we'll see a little less set-piece work from us - and willingness to keep the ball in a little more - actually having no Retallick and Whitelock ironically might provide us some extra spark, those two have usually carried a ton of work up to this point in the year.

          Have put Barrett back off the bench, partially to reward Cruden, to let Barrett freshen up some - I think the coaches will keep an eye on Dublin and Paris, and want to blitz those teams, so spelling him a bit this week, and then next week means Barrett should be cherry ripe physically and mentally for the last two.

          Smith-Cruden is a good combo for each other coming back in.

          I would actually like to see what Fifita can do on international stage, just give him a license to Smash into anything green.

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          MN5
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          #206

          @mariner4life said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

          @westcoastie said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

          Team naming tomorrow? Probably in the evening NZ time.

          Will take a stab at it...
          Front Row: Moody, Coles, Crockett
          Locks: Tuipolutu, S.Barrett
          Back Row: Kaino, Cane, Read
          Halves: Smith & Cruden*
          Midfield: Cruden & Lienert-Brown
          Back three: Savea, Dagg & B.Smith

          Bench: Faumuina, Taylor, Crockett, Squire, Savea, Perenara, B.Barrett*, Fekitoa

          I reckon they go the #1 starting lineup possible in this first test, especially with our makeshift backrow - geez looks thin without the Twin Towers.
          Lot of work going into scrummaging and line-out this week I'd expect - I wonder if we'll see a little less set-piece work from us - and willingness to keep the ball in a little more - actually having no Retallick and Whitelock ironically might provide us some extra spark, those two have usually carried a ton of work up to this point in the year.

          Have put Barrett back off the bench, partially to reward Cruden, to let Barrett freshen up some - I think the coaches will keep an eye on Dublin and Paris, and want to blitz those teams, so spelling him a bit this week, and then next week means Barrett should be cherry ripe physically and mentally for the last two.

          Smith-Cruden is a good combo for each other coming back in.

          I would actually like to see what Fifita can do on international stage, just give him a license to Smash into anything green.

          alt text

          Good old Brian Cox, second only to Sean Connery in the "Scottish actors who play any nationality on earth with a Scottish accent".....I do hope he makes an appearance in Super Troopers 2.

          Would Tuipolotu and Barrett provide a bit more grunt in terms of scrumaging than BR and SW ? Genuine question.

          @jegga pretty shit Dad joke I'll admit but surely better than the old "when is the team named?" chestnut.....

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            Is the stadium sold out?

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            • MN5M MN5

              @mariner4life said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

              @westcoastie said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

              Team naming tomorrow? Probably in the evening NZ time.

              Will take a stab at it...
              Front Row: Moody, Coles, Crockett
              Locks: Tuipolutu, S.Barrett
              Back Row: Kaino, Cane, Read
              Halves: Smith & Cruden*
              Midfield: Cruden & Lienert-Brown
              Back three: Savea, Dagg & B.Smith

              Bench: Faumuina, Taylor, Crockett, Squire, Savea, Perenara, B.Barrett*, Fekitoa

              I reckon they go the #1 starting lineup possible in this first test, especially with our makeshift backrow - geez looks thin without the Twin Towers.
              Lot of work going into scrummaging and line-out this week I'd expect - I wonder if we'll see a little less set-piece work from us - and willingness to keep the ball in a little more - actually having no Retallick and Whitelock ironically might provide us some extra spark, those two have usually carried a ton of work up to this point in the year.

              Have put Barrett back off the bench, partially to reward Cruden, to let Barrett freshen up some - I think the coaches will keep an eye on Dublin and Paris, and want to blitz those teams, so spelling him a bit this week, and then next week means Barrett should be cherry ripe physically and mentally for the last two.

              Smith-Cruden is a good combo for each other coming back in.

              I would actually like to see what Fifita can do on international stage, just give him a license to Smash into anything green.

              alt text

              Good old Brian Cox, second only to Sean Connery in the "Scottish actors who play any nationality on earth with a Scottish accent".....I do hope he makes an appearance in Super Troopers 2.

              Would Tuipolotu and Barrett provide a bit more grunt in terms of scrumaging than BR and SW ? Genuine question.

              @jegga pretty shit Dad joke I'll admit but surely better than the old "when is the team named?" chestnut.....

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              taniwharugby
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              @MN5 the when is the team named question is as valid as is Ardie really 6ft 4?

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                I believe it is a sell out.

                For those potentially streaming the game via the All Blacks website (e.g. Aus based Ferners), the cost is going to be $7.97 NZD for the ABs-Ireland and $4.97 NZD for the Maori ABs-USA.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @akan004 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                  Why has Bird not been given the call up? Is he injured?

                  He's clearly slipped down the pecking order

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                  @MN5 May be something to do with broken foot. Read apparently also requires a surgery and will be out for start of Super rugby.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    I believe it is a sell out.

                    For those potentially streaming the game via the All Blacks website (e.g. Aus based Ferners), the cost is going to be $7.97 NZD for the ABs-Ireland and $4.97 NZD for the Maori ABs-USA.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                    I believe it is a sell out.

                    For those potentially streaming the game via the All Blacks website (e.g. Aus based Ferners), the cost is going to be $7.97 NZD for the ABs-Ireland and $4.97 NZD for the Maori ABs-USA.

                    SOLD!

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      I believe it is a sell out.

                      For those potentially streaming the game via the All Blacks website (e.g. Aus based Ferners), the cost is going to be $7.97 NZD for the ABs-Ireland and $4.97 NZD for the Maori ABs-USA.

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                      akan004
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                      @KiwiMurph said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                      I believe it is a sell out.

                      For those potentially streaming the game via the All Blacks website (e.g. Aus based Ferners), the cost is going to be $7.97 NZD for the ABs-Ireland and $4.97 NZD for the Maori ABs-USA.

                      So it looks like it will be 22 AUD to watch the three All Black games on tour. Am not going to bother with the Italian game. Not too bad I suppose as long as the stream is solid.

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                      • westcoastieW westcoastie

                        @taniwharugby Clearly we all know B.Smith the #1 #15. It just took Hansen a little bit to realise it.

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                        @westcoastie said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                        @taniwharugby Clearly we all know B.Smith the #1 #15. It just took Hansen a little bit to realise it.

                        I think it was well established that Hansen knew all along but didn't have a 14 of high enough quality, so went for the Dagg-Smith combo as that gave us the best balance.

                        As it turns out, Dagg is a pretty decent 14 as well.

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                          No aura and ... or maybe but ... not invincible:
                          http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86015867/confident-ireland-lock-ultan-dillane-believes-the-all-blacks-are-not-invincible

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                            #215

                            Just realised that the Kiwis v Roos match is on at the exact same time as the ABs match. FML.

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                              A few Irish websites are predicting Murphy at 7 ahead of VDF and Payne at 13 and Kearney at 15.

                              That is great news for us if confirmed!

                              Murphy is a jack of all trades master of none back-row forward, and VDF has been in hot form at 7.

                              Kearney I seriously don't rate. He'd be lucky to make a NZ SXV starting side at FB IMO. A complete shadow of his former self.

                              Payne is solid at 13.

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                                Dixon, TKB, DMac and R. Ioane all released from the ABs squad to start for the Maori.

                                Lucky I didn't post my thesis yesterday about Dixon being a certainty for the bench against Ireland given his ability to cover 7 and jump in the lineout. We would tell our starting 7 (Cane or Todd) he was going 80, because we needed Kaino and Dixon to play the final quarter at lock. Then Squire would be on for genuine impact.

                                I am so lucky I didn't post that thesis. Imagine what the Fern would have thought of me.

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                                  No Quarter
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                                  Imagine what the Fern already thinks of you.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    Imagine what the Fern already thinks of you.

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                                    @No-Quarter I expect it would be contempt at a similar level to that expressed by my wife, kids and boss.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Imagine what the Fern already thinks of you.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                      Imagine what the Fern already thinks of you.

                                      Think of who???

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @akan004 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                        Why has Bird not been given the call up? Is he injured?

                                        Injured.. He had surgery planned for after the NPC

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                                        @Duluth said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                        @akan004 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                        Why has Bird not been given the call up? Is he injured?

                                        Injured.. He had surgery planned for after the NPC

                                        I doubt he would've got the call even he was fit. He's too much in the same mould as PT and Romero. Plus I don't think he's got the motor

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                                          Don't know how much credence to give this but

                                          Read and Barrett on the bench

                                          http://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/smith-returns-to-all-black-fold-for-pivotal-clash-35184347.html

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