NH Club Rugby
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A good day for the SA franchises. Bulls finally win one after the 7 game losing streak. Hopefully they are now on an upward trajectory after the shedding of jake the snake.
The one bulls try was quite weird though, watching it live was eyebrow raising.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/international-referee-slammed-over-bizarre-33252345 -
don't get to watch the European stuff as I can't bring myself to add yet another otherwise entirely useless sports channel package but the Quins result yesterday was extraordinary, our defence is so weak and so porous i can't understand how we won. From everything i've read, Smith was excellent yesterday. Shame Borthers will never pick him at 10.
Interesting that 7 of the remaining 16 teams are English, I wouldn't expect many of them to get through to the 1/4s though, 2 guaranteed, 1 i think will get through. Would expect Toulouse vs Bordeaux in the 1/4s which will be tasty.
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When I look at the results I often have a quick scan of the team lists. It seems that there is a real "home" and "away" mentality for many of the teams in the European competitions. For example, Sale got beaten by 70 pts by Toulouse last weekend. But no Ford and Curry unless they were both injured. OK to rotate if you are Leinster and Toulouse but I doubt the other teams can.
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@Bovidae said in NH Club Rugby:
When I look at the results I often have a quick scan of the team lists. It seems that there is a real "home" and "away" mentality for many of the teams in the European competitions. For example, Sale got beaten by 70 pts by Toulouse last weekend. But no Ford and Curry unless they were both injured. OK to rotate if you are Leinster and Toulouse but I doubt the other teams can.
It seems that there has been a lot of tactical selection going on, which needs to be addressed by the organisers. People (including TV companies) pay a lot of money for a premier rugby tournament.
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@W32 said in NH Club Rugby:
A good day for the SA franchises. Bulls finally win one after the 7 game losing streak. Hopefully they are now on an upward trajectory after the shedding of jake the snake.
The one bulls try was quite weird though, watching it live was eyebrow raising.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/international-referee-slammed-over-bizarre-33252345i dont normally dabble in here but had to come looking for this....WTH
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@Catogrande said in NH Club Rugby:
@Bovidae said in NH Club Rugby:
When I look at the results I often have a quick scan of the team lists. It seems that there is a real "home" and "away" mentality for many of the teams in the European competitions. For example, Sale got beaten by 70 pts by Toulouse last weekend. But no Ford and Curry unless they were both injured. OK to rotate if you are Leinster and Toulouse but I doubt the other teams can.
It seems that there has been a lot of tactical selection going on, which needs to be addressed by the organisers. People (including TV companies) pay a lot of money for a premier rugby tournament.
It's because the season is so fragmented
For some clubs the domestic competition is more important and that's what they're focusing on
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Dickson is a poor ref but that is plumbing depths that even he has not seen before. Astonishing.
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@MiketheSnow I get the why-fors, but it still needs addressing. The paying public are getting shafted.
Too much rugby maybe..?
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I think the European competition is broken, the tv coverage of rugby in the UK, but particularly in England is a nightmare with it being split across so many channels etc. The inclusion of South African teams doesn't work IMO. Not sure how to fix it but i still don't understand how the early round works, nor how they seed teams for the R16
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@Catogrande said in NH Club Rugby:
Dickson is a poor ref but that is plumbing depths that even he has not seen before. Astonishing.
I take it you've never watched him ref a Pacific island team against a NH team?
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@Dodge Its quite easy to understand. Basic is to get as high as possible in your pool. Winners of pools are rank 1-4. 2nd in pools ranked 5-8, 3rd ranked 9-12, 4th ranked 13-16. Ranked is based on logpoints, point different if equal.
The English clubs look in great shape. Harlequins played some great rugby against the Stormers and specially LaR.
The Stormers would hope for a home playoffs but ended in the URC side of the draw. Their target was to get to the business end, so going forward will be a bonus. Toulon away will be a challenge. The other side of the draw is hectic.
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@MiketheSnow true. For the NH competitions you need two squads. The Stormers played Quins on the Sunday and Leicester on the next saturday. No way you can play week after week your strongest match XV. This is a massive shift from Super Rugby and the SA franchises still are in a work in process. The Stormers have done great this year because they contracted their best schoolboy talent in the last 4 years.
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@OomPB said in NH Club Rugby:
@Dodge Its quite easy to understand. Basic is to get as high as possible in your pool. Winners of pools are rank 1-4. 2nd in pools ranked 5-8, 3rd ranked 9-12, 4th ranked 13-16. Ranked is based on logpoints, point different if equal.
The English clubs look in great shape. Harlequins played some great rugby against the Stormers and specially LaR.
The Stormers would hope for a home playoffs but ended in the URC side of the draw. Their target was to get to the business end, so going forward will be a bonus. Toulon away will be a challenge. The other side of the draw is hectic.
I don't understand how you can have a group with 6 teams in it but you only play 4 games...
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Cripes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c3ve1nx26l3o
'I'm a scary sight' - Northampton's 23-stone, one-meal man
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@Dodge said in NH Club Rugby:
I think the European competition is broken, the tv coverage of rugby in the UK, but particularly in England is a nightmare with it being split across so many channels etc. The inclusion of South African teams doesn't work IMO. Not sure how to fix it
Tell them to go back to playing in their own comps
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@antipodean said in NH Club Rugby:
@Dodge said in NH Club Rugby:
I think the European competition is broken, the tv coverage of rugby in the UK, but particularly in England is a nightmare with it being split across so many channels etc. The inclusion of South African teams doesn't work IMO. Not sure how to fix it
Tell them to go back to playing in their own comps
that fixes the SA problem but not the structure of the whole competition, nor the coverage. IMO rugby needs to decide on one platform to watch all the competitions on (particularly in England given its the largest market outside of France) and maybe make some decisions based on visibility not simply the largest number. As it stands today, you need BBC, ITV, Amazon, Sky Sports, Premier Sports and TNT to watch your international team and your club team in every game - I hate it and lose track as a result, if I can't keep up, how the hell do you attract new eyeballs.
No question the Premiership is the main reason that the European competitions are a bit broken as the HEC worked well before we got silly.
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@antipodean said in NH Club Rugby:
@Dodge said in NH Club Rugby:
I think the European competition is broken, the tv coverage of rugby in the UK, but particularly in England is a nightmare with it being split across so many channels etc. The inclusion of South African teams doesn't work IMO. Not sure how to fix it
Tell them to go back to playing in their own comps
Heard some chatter that the cheetahs might end up playing in the super competition. So there’s that.
