Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1)
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.
Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.
World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over
@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.
Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.
World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over
Nah that's bullshit especially tonight. He was first on the scene very often.
Lost his footing and position a couple of times which allowed turnover. -
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@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.
Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.
World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over
Nah that's bullshit especially tonight. He was first on the scene very often.
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@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Don't disagree with either of you. He's definitely inaccurate but I love his intent. Hit rucks, with shoulders. Make sure we keep ball. Make other teams ball a mess.
I don't think he's quite athletic enough for tests but you can see why coaches are attracted.
Can't help but think he's a bit "busy idiot". Maybe if he just got a bit less busy he'd be a lot less idiot.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Don't disagree with either of you. He's definitely inaccurate but I love his intent. Hit rucks, with shoulders. Make sure we keep ball. Make other teams ball a mess.
I don't think he's quite athletic enough for tests but you can see why coaches are attracted.
Can't help but think he's a bit "busy idiot". Maybe if he just got a bit less busy he'd be a lot less idiot.
That's his whole gig though, repeat involvements. No chance EB stands at first receiver while his team gets turned over.
As I said, love his intent, and I thought he was the best forward on the field tonight. I just fear he lacks the foot speed and that little bit of dynamism at the next level.
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Nah its not bullshit and its based on his entire career. Good loosies pick and choose their battles. He plays like a spastic
@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Nah its not bullshit and its based on his entire career. Good loosies pick and choose their battles. He plays like a spastic
We have too many loosies who pick and choose their moments, to their teams detriment
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Don't disagree with either of you. He's definitely inaccurate but I love his intent. Hit rucks, with shoulders. Make sure we keep ball. Make other teams ball a mess.
I don't think he's quite athletic enough for tests but you can see why coaches are attracted.
Can't help but think he's a bit "busy idiot". Maybe if he just got a bit less busy he'd be a lot less idiot.
That's his whole gig though, repeat involvements. No chance EB stands at first receiver while his team gets turned over.
As I said, love his intent, and I thought he was the best forward on the field tonight. I just fear he lacks the foot speed and that little bit of dynamism at the next level.
@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Don't disagree with either of you. He's definitely inaccurate but I love his intent. Hit rucks, with shoulders. Make sure we keep ball. Make other teams ball a mess.
I don't think he's quite athletic enough for tests but you can see why coaches are attracted.
Can't help but think he's a bit "busy idiot". Maybe if he just got a bit less busy he'd be a lot less idiot.
That's his whole gig though, repeat involvements. No chance EB stands at first receiver while his team gets turned over.
As I said, love his intent, and I thought he was the best forward on the field tonight. I just fear he lacks the foot speed and that little bit of dynamism at the next level.
Maybe, but take one of the rucks early in the game, he ends up on the wrong side as he's not dynamic enough, so tries to fuck about with highlanders a metre on their side of the ruck and still gets shrugged off. Work smarter not harder and you might add more.
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@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Nah its not bullshit and its based on his entire career. Good loosies pick and choose their battles. He plays like a spastic
We have too many loosies who pick and choose their moments, to their teams detriment
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@mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.
@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.
Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable
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@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.
Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable
@mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
who aren't committed to folding rucks
Only problem is him not choosing his moment makes it look like he isn't committed either
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@Steven-Harris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
LF for all the hype was very disappointing
Crusaders not their usual clinical best but full credit to the Landers for their DNo use powering into defenders if you can't hold onto the ball. Ongoing problem for Leicester that they need to work out. Teams know what he's going to do and attack that.
Far too many soft dropped balls by the Crusaders - LF, Ennor and Gardiner all guilty of shockers.
Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.
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@Chris-B. said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.
Kind of sucks for the tournament that he had to start on the bench.
@Kirwan said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@Chris-B. said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.
Kind of sucks for the tournament that he had to start on the bench.
Fuck it's hard to keep up with a world where all of a sudden Kirwan wants the crusaders to win, for the health of super rugby.
That hat has really messed with you man.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.
Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.
World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over
@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):
@mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.
Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.
World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over
Imagine a loose forward trio with him and Savea. One a bit too slow to rucks to have an impact, but hits them all, and another fast enough to ensure he doesn't have to hit any as he lines up at first receiver.
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Bloody awful first 60 minutes
Hopefully Penny realises now that we need to play our best team.
Blackadder copping a bit here, but he wasn't the problem.. Our starting tight 5 got completely out muscled and couldn't control the breakdown.
Starting props and locks so weak (Jamie Hannah is a poor man's Issac Ross, just as soft in contact but without the freakish skills)
Dom Gardiner shouldnt even be in the squad, ridiculous to sub blackadder off with 9 minutes to go and keep him on.
Leicester maybe worst player in the park, has he lost too much weight?
Tangitau should have been an all black last year.. He's a way better wing than Reiko or Reece
