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Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1)

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

    @mariner4life

    Nah its not bullshit and its based on his entire career. Good loosies pick and choose their battles. He plays like a spastic

    We have too many loosies who pick and choose their moments, to their teams detriment

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    @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

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      @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

      @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

      Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
      And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
      I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

      But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

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        Would be really interested to see him as a bench player, when the energy could really tell and the inaccuracy wouldn't matter as much. Surely coming on when most others are tired should be his wheelhouse?

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

          @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

          Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
          And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
          I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

          But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

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          @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

          who aren't committed to folding rucks

          Only problem is him not choosing his moment makes it look like he isn't committed either 🤣

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Steven-Harris said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

            LF for all the hype was very disappointing
            Crusaders not their usual clinical best but full credit to the Landers for their D

            No use powering into defenders if you can't hold onto the ball. Ongoing problem for Leicester that they need to work out. Teams know what he's going to do and attack that.

            Far too many soft dropped balls by the Crusaders - LF, Ennor and Gardiner all guilty of shockers.

            Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.

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            @Chris-B. said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

            Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.

            Kind of sucks for the tournament that he had to start on the bench.

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              @Chris-B. said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

              Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.

              Kind of sucks for the tournament that he had to start on the bench.

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              @Kirwan said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

              @Chris-B. said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

              Jordan looking like a five-time World Team of the Year player. Nearly won it on his own.

              Kind of sucks for the tournament that he had to start on the bench.

              Fuck it's hard to keep up with a world where all of a sudden Kirwan wants the crusaders to win, for the health of super rugby.

              That hat has really messed with you man.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

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                  @Duluth Blackadder blowing someone out of a ruck to secure the ball?

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                    @mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.

                    Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.

                    World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over

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                    @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                    @Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                    @mariner4life there's no doubting EB's work rate, but his effectiveness when doing anything actually legal isn't something to shout about and he wouldn't get away with his SR shenanigans in test rugby, he'd be a liability. He's half a step behind most others so ends up just doing everything too late.

                    Not a bad bench option in a pinch, but that would be his limit.

                    World champion of hitting rucks after the contest is over

                    Imagine a loose forward trio with him and Savea. One a bit too slow to rucks to have an impact, but hits them all, and another fast enough to ensure he doesn't have to hit any as he lines up at first receiver.

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                      Bloody awful first 60 minutes

                      Hopefully Penny realises now that we need to play our best team.

                      Blackadder copping a bit here, but he wasn't the problem.. Our starting tight 5 got completely out muscled and couldn't control the breakdown.

                      Starting props and locks so weak (Jamie Hannah is a poor man's Issac Ross, just as soft in contact but without the freakish skills)

                      Dom Gardiner shouldnt even be in the squad, ridiculous to sub blackadder off with 9 minutes to go and keep him on.

                      Leicester maybe worst player in the park, has he lost too much weight?

                      Tangitau should have been an all black last year.. He's a way better wing than Reiko or Reece

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                        Lock is a real area of concern for us this year , wish we hadn't lost Darry and Gallagher

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                          Don't want to jinx him, but Blackadder looked fit and hungry

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            Don't want to jinx him, but Blackadder looked fit and hungry

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                            @MiketheSnow said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                            Don't want to jinx him, but Blackadder looked fit and hungry

                            You've done it now. Season ending injury next week.

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                              @MiketheSnow said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                              Don't want to jinx him, but Blackadder looked fit and hungry

                              You've done it now. Season ending injury next week.

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                              @DaGrubster said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                              @MiketheSnow said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                              Don't want to jinx him, but Blackadder looked fit and hungry

                              You've done it now. Season ending injury next week.

                              You sure he didn't sleep in an awkward position on the coach home and break two arms and a clavicle?

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                                If I was a Crusaders supporter (apart from committing hari kari) I wouldn't be overly upset. First up game, and don't underestimate how well the Clan played as a unit. They looked to me as a team with not a lot of stars, but one that know the answer is everyone do their job, and in rugby quite often the sum total is better than the individual parts. I got idea ,they just wanted to do whatever the team needed to win.

                                Footnote, geez Hotham looks like he spent some time in Gym while injured doesn't he?

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                  @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                  Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                  And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                  I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                  But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

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                                  @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                  @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                  @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                  Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                  And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                  I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                  But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                  This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

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                                    @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                    @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                    @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                    Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                    And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                    I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                    But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                    This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

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                                    @reprobate I don't think he was an insignificant part of this loss. That's how.

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                                      @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                      @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                      @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                      Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                      And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                      I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                      But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                      This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

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                                      @reprobate said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                      @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                      @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                      @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                      Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                      And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                      I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                      But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                      This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

                                      In your opinion.but still
                                      sititi was out of form
                                      Jacobson was KOed
                                      parker was injured
                                      finau was finau
                                      so even if correct was not outstanding

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @reprobate I don't think he was an insignificant part of this loss. That's how.

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                                        @Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                        @reprobate I don't think he was an insignificant part of this loss. That's how.

                                        Aside from the astonishingly atrocious play at one of the early rucks, where he was in the side, offside, and taking a player who wasn't part of the ruck, how so?
                                        And how was he not a significant part of e.g. last year's finals?

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                                          @reprobate said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                          Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                          And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                          I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                          But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                          This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

                                          In your opinion.but still
                                          sititi was out of form
                                          Jacobson was KOed
                                          parker was injured
                                          finau was finau
                                          so even if correct was not outstanding

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                                          @ploughboy said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @reprobate said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @mariner4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders (round 1):

                                          @mariner4life You're talking about something else. Recognising a ruck is already won or lost means you can get to the next winnable contest quicker.

                                          Look its a valid criticism. And good players pick their moments.
                                          And I want to make it clear I am not calling for EB to get the 7 jersey.
                                          I am just jaded with a procession of test level forwards who aren't committed to folding rucks.

                                          But to keep thread on target, EB was excellent tonight. At this level those criticisms don't mean quite so much. Like the final last year, that golden retriever-like ball chasing is invaluable

                                          This is it. He's getting rubbished on here despite probably being the best forward on the paddock. Last year he was the best loosie in the finals. No he's not exactly McCaw, but if our other guys are so much better why does he keep outplaying them? Fucken absolutely he has limitations, but so do our other options - if they want to be ABs and we want them to dominate the Saffas, how about they start with showing they can outplay Blackadder?

                                          In your opinion.but still
                                          sititi was out of form
                                          Jacobson was KOed
                                          parker was injured
                                          finau was finau
                                          so even if correct was not outstanding

                                          Out of form is an excuse?
                                          Being Finau is an excuse?
                                          And if being injured is an excuse then Blackadder should be top of every list surely?

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