Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel
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@No-Quarter Yeah man, it's annoying to lose but the team have done us proud all year (bar 80 minutes in Chicago). Clearly Chicago was our bridge too far.
@Nepia said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@No-Quarter Yeah man, it's annoying to lose but the team have done us proud all year (bar 80 minutes in Chicago). Clearly Chicago was our bridge too far.
yep, thats the thing, this team is extraordinary, no 2 ways about it, but a perfect storm of things happened, including the Irish playing thier nuts off, and they won.
Given we were supposed to walk this and then be tested in Dublin, I would be surprised if we dont clean them up there now.
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@Nepia said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@No-Quarter Yeah man, it's annoying to lose but the team have done us proud all year (bar 80 minutes in Chicago). Clearly Chicago was our bridge too far.
yep, thats the thing, this team is extraordinary, no 2 ways about it, but a perfect storm of things happened, including the Irish playing thier nuts off, and they won.
Given we were supposed to walk this and then be tested in Dublin, I would be surprised if we dont clean them up there now.
@taniwharugby said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@Nepia said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@No-Quarter Yeah man, it's annoying to lose but the team have done us proud all year (bar 80 minutes in Chicago). Clearly Chicago was our bridge too far.
yep, thats the thing, this team is extraordinary, no 2 ways about it, but a perfect storm of things happened, including the Irish playing thier nuts off, and they won.
Given we were supposed to walk this and then be tested in Dublin, I would be surprised if we dont clean them up there now.
Yep, I hope we beat them like a psycho treats his red head step son.
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To be fair, the ABs did lose a crap load of experience from 2015 and while they rebuild that experienced squad, this sort of game was going to happen. They come up against a motivated, well coached quality side and have a bunch of players who aren't delivering what they are capable of soon enough in the game and the team can't change approach quickly enough.
Losing = learning experience. The ABs have just been lucky that they haven't had as many "learning experiences" this year.
That plus the perfect storm of Ireland playing really well, and I think some poor selections means they lost.
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I'm happy the guys didn't embarass us and turned on some class midway through the second half. I felt the captain should have stepped up and played a bit of field position to pressurise the Irish. In fact, that's what they did to us. They had the cooler heads at the end, which shows that this team has really grown up.
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In the aftermatch discussion they are saying that now every team will analyse this game to see how you beat the All Blacks. Don't think they will learn that much though, considering that this was a seriously weakened All Blacks team and they will learn from it as well.
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@No-Quarter did you not read the thread? Bitterness and recriminations started by about minute 20
@mariner4life said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@No-Quarter did you not read the thread? Bitterness and recriminations started by about minute 20
As they should!
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Smith's confidence was shot as well thanks to the muppet couple from Christchurch. Fuck it, I blame those two pricks for this loss.
Except why did they start Smith when Perenara had played superbly in the previous two tests
For me poor selections (A Smith and Kaino at lock) and dumb play by Moody with his yellow cost the ABs this test
But well done Ireland. They destroyed the ABs in the first half
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In the aftermatch discussion they are saying that now every team will analyse this game to see how you beat the All Blacks. Don't think they will learn that much though, considering that this was a seriously weakened All Blacks team and they will learn from it as well.
@Stargazer
Well they better learn and commit to memory, I sure don't want to see another AB game like that one ever again -
Ireland were awesome! Just sensational.
For us - gee there was some shit out there. Starting halves were rubbish. Perenara was excellent. Scott Barrett was excellent.
Moala is ok but his passing isnt up to it - plus hes injury prone.
Julian Savea for all his attributes has a very limited game.
Ireland were awesome though - congrats Irish fans!
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Except why did they start Smith when Perenara had played superbly in the previous two tests
For me poor selections (A Smith and Kaino at lock) and dumb play by Moody with his yellow cost the ABs this test
But well done Ireland. They destroyed the ABs in the first half
@Winger said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
Except why did they start Smith when Perenara had played superbly in the previous two tests
For me poor selections (A Smith and Kaino at lock) and dumb play by Moody with his yellow cost the ABs this test
But well done Ireland. They destroyed the ABs in the first half
Because Smith is the best halfback in the world. You're right though, our discipline and lack of urgency by everyone in the first half cost us the game. Hard to believe that we did not learn anything from Dublin in 2013.
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I was hoping we could hold out not losing to Ireland for another 2 weeks, as the Trump initiated nuclear war would have obliterated Western Europe by then
@Stockcar86 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
I was hoping we could hold out not losing to Ireland for another 2 weeks, as the Trump initiated nuclear war would have obliterated Western Europe by then
Isn't Hilary the war mongerer? Trump is Team Russia. I'm so confused - I need to go check the thread to see what's what.
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IMO the single biggest mistake was not trusting Barrett to start. He was fine when he came on! Playing 2 non-jumping locks when Ireland have Toner is just poor.
Also BB was not flash under pressure, and Smith I think might have for the moment slipped behind Perenara.
Moody had a mare, and ALB would have much better on the bench.
Also one flying polynesian on the wings, not 2.
A humbling defeat, Ireland were really superb for much of the match, simple game-plan executed to perfection.
Dublin should be a cracker!
