Injuries

taniwharugby

@MN5 my guess is autocorrect knows about Koalas, but not Moalas.

MN5

@taniwharugby said in Injuries:

@MN5 my guess is autocorrect knows about Koalas, but not Moalas.

Good point. Moalas are less cuddly than Koalas and very likely to attack with broken glass if provoked.

Tregaskis

@MN5 That's a cutting remark.

taniwharugby

Moala has had issues with his elbow before hasn't he?

Some pretty rotten luck with injuries for him though, is this his 2nd or 3rd injury after getting a chance with ABs?

ACT Crusader

@taniwharugby and for someone who isn't a regular feature in the 23, it's even worse because they are the guys that are at most risk of losing their spot in the squad.

Stargazer

According to this article on Stuff:

... big lock Brodie Retallick is set to rejoin them in Italy and centre Seta Tamanivalu has been called up as a midfield reinforcement.

But Retallick will be in Italy to bolster the All Blacks pack and, with the lineout a shambles against Ireland, the Chiefs stalwart could be in line to start in Rome next weekend.

Tamanivalu has been called after George Moala was forced out with an elbow injury, NZ Newswire reported.

Crusaders recruit Tamanivalu, 24, who played for the Barbarians in their 31-31 draw with South Africa in London at the weekend, will join the side ahead of their match against Italy in Rome. He has played three tests.

Moala, who pulled the ligaments off his elbow in the 40-29 loss to Ireland in Chicago, would return to New Zealand.

Second five-eighth Ryan Crotty, who strained his hamstring during the match, would stay with the team and be assessed over the coming weeks in the hope he would be available for the the final test of the tour against France, on November 26.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/86161202/seta-tamanivalu-joins-all-blacks-to-bolster-midfield-after-george-moalas-injury

Stargazer

The official media release:

http://www.allblacks.com/News/30083/tamanivalu-called-into-all-blacks-tour

ACT Crusader

"Moala pulled the ligaments and tendons off his elbow and won't not need an operation."

Not just the rugby team but the media/editing department is having a mare also...

pakman

The scouts from Herald and Stuff will be gagging to poach them!

booboo

@ACT-Crusader said in Injuries:

"Moala pulled the ligaments and tendons off his elbow and won't not need an operation."

Not just the rugby team but the media/editing department is having a mare also...

So he does need an op? ...

mariner4life

@booboo he doesn't not

Hooroo

Just reading through the Blues woes of injuries and last year the Chiefs with all the early season injuries, can any of this be put down to training and playing on rock hard surfaces for too long.

They would have been training all through Dec and Jan on essentially concrete.

Perhaps if they started the season later, you know, after the cricket season that SA, Oz and NZ play maybe there maybe fewer injuries?

Perhaps not and it's just coincidence.

nzzp

@Hooroo said in Injuries:

Perhaps not and it's just coincidence.

I think it's not that related. They don't play or train on rokc hard grounds any more - Eden Park (for instance) has a world class surface.

Rugby just doesn't lend itself to the bulking up that has come with professionalism. The impacts get so much bigger that tendons and ligaments seem to be the things that get mashed.

Hooroo

@nzzp said in Injuries:

@Hooroo said in Injuries:

Perhaps not and it's just coincidence.

I think it's not that related. They don't play or train on rokc hard grounds any more - Eden Park (for instance) has a world class surface.

Rugby just doesn't lend itself to the bulking up that has come with professionalism. The impacts get so much bigger that tendons and ligaments seem to be the things that get mashed.

I don't disagree and I think I more referring to what they are training on.

Bovidae

The Ruakura field that the Chiefs train on is bloody good.

Hooroo

@Bovidae Good call.

So just coincidence of timing of injury which isn't that surprising but I just felt we see this more and more at beginning of season.

Bovidae

@Hooroo I would say most injuries are from contact, and that is more likely to happen early in the season (or preseason) when players are not as conditioned to the physicality.

taniwharugby

@Hooroo possibly due to the fact these guys are training/playing much longer?

Which is why they are also trying to manage workloads as well I guess?

Kirwan

@taniwharugby said in Injuries:

@Hooroo possibly due to the fact these guys are training/playing much longer?

Which is why they are also trying to manage workloads as well I guess?

Absolutely. Off season is short, and you get cumulative year on year load as well. If you play internationals, hardly any time to rest and recover.

I think we need to reduce the number of subs and speed the game up so the players can't maintain the bulk as well. Make fitness more of a factor, and reduce the impact of the collisions.

Remember when 120kg + players were rare?

antipodean

@Kirwan said in Injuries:

I think we need to reduce the number of subs and speed the game up so the players can't maintain the bulk as well. Make fitness more of a factor, and reduce the impact of the collisions.

I've said that for years and I'm certainly not the Lone Ranger there. The hilarious part of increasing the bench size was the current state of rugby was perfectly predictable. The law of unintended consequence.

Players no longer tire adequately, defences don't break down. Keep the ball in play more across the 80mins and they'd have to be fitter, which means smaller.

The Silver Fern

Injuries