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All Blacks v Ireland II

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    Jimmy Jimmy
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    #48

    Mariner I don't know how to put things up here from other sources but if you google Doug Howlett and Paul O'Connell you will find articles about the pair. One of the articles mentions that Howlett seems to have had his loyalties scrambled. I can forgive him for jumping on car bonnets but not this.

    So come on Jules, five more and the record is yours.

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      RoninWC
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      #49

      My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

      1. W. Crockett
      2. D. Coles
      3. O. Franks
      4. B. Retallick
      5. S. Whitelock
      6. J. Kaino
      7. S. Cane
      8. K Read
      9. A. Smith
      10. B. Barrett
      11. J. Savea
      12. A. Lienart-Brown
      13. M. Fekitoa
      14. I. Dagg
      15. B. Smith

      Reserves
      16. C. Taylor
      17. J. Moody
      18. C. Faumuina
      19. L. Squire
      20. A. Savea
      21. T. Perenara
      22. L. Sopoaga

      Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
      I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

      And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

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        Donsteppa
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        #50

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86270761/doug-howlett-revels-in-irelands-maiden-win-over-the-all-blacks-with-paul-oconnell

        Also some comments at https://www.balls.ie/rugby/doug-howlett/351240

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        • mariner4lifeM Online
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          mariner4life
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          #51

          you're fucking dead to me Douglas

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          • DonsteppaD Online
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            Donsteppa
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            #52

            My side is also revised for J.Savea to now get as much game time as possible, and for A Smith to start to hurl giant miss passes in his direction. As many tries as possible to Julian.

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              Jimmy Jimmy
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              #53

              Thank you very much Donsteppa.

              Mariner, make that x 2

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                Stargazer
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                #54

                I don't see what's wrong with Howlett having "mixed emotions" about that win. Can't he be happy for his Irish friends, only because they beat his old team? To me, it seems the media are just making this into something it's not.

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                  Jimmy Jimmy
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                  #55

                  Hopefully Hansen and the other 14 players on the field all read the Fern and make this happen because that fucking record has to go.

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                    #56

                    The NZRU has gone into damage control as in light of recent reports, it was revealed that someone from rugby HQ was deployed to remove Douglas Charles Howlett from all All Blacks reference material including the coveted leading try scorer record.

                    The NZ Herald contacted Christian Cullen in wake of the news, he was surprisingly delighted with the news, but it was clear that his long held view that he was robbed of holding it outright by Mitchell was still raw. NZ Herald spoke briefly with Joe Rokocoko who said "no comment".

                    Julian Savea now only needs two tries to be the All Black leader.

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                      Jimmy Jimmy
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                      #57

                      Stargazer it is not the media it is a whole lot of fans as well.

                      ACT Crusader nice bit of sarcasm but we do not need the NZRU to do anything as Jules will soon hold it anyway otherwise it will be a re-run of the " does 18 unbeaten really count anyway because Cyprus has 24".

                      Come on Jules do it for us.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        The NZRU has gone into damage control as in light of recent reports, it was revealed that someone from rugby HQ was deployed to remove Douglas Charles Howlett from all All Blacks reference material including the coveted leading try scorer record.

                        The NZ Herald contacted Christian Cullen in wake of the news, he was surprisingly delighted with the news, but it was clear that his long held view that he was robbed of holding it outright by Mitchell was still raw. NZ Herald spoke briefly with Joe Rokocoko who said "no comment".

                        Julian Savea now only needs two tries to be the All Black leader.

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                        taniwharugby
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                        #58

                        @ACT-Crusader haha I just tried to look him up to see if removing him from the record books would affect Haymans coveted AB 1,000 as I couldn't remember who was capped first....

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                        I do note the full web address has 1099 at the end so assume Hayman is safe.

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                          kiwiinmelb
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                          #59

                          Having a laugh with some mates doesnt necessarily translate to supporting Ireland over NZ, media might be jumping the gun there

                          But on suspicion , his NZ citizenship should be cancelled anyway

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                            Jimmy Jimmy
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                            #60

                            Just referring to the ABs as a team I used to play for is enough for me to agree with the passport withdrawal.

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                            • J Jimmy Jimmy

                              Just referring to the ABs as a team I used to play for is enough for me to agree with the passport withdrawal.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #61

                              @Jimmy-Jimmy given our medias reputation for missing a lot of facts in their articles, they probably failed to advise he burnt half his AB jersies after selling the rest on eBay or that he had already revoked his NZ Passport in favour of an Irish one.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Jimmy-Jimmy given our medias reputation for missing a lot of facts in their articles, they probably failed to advise he burnt half his AB jersies after selling the rest on eBay or that he had already revoked his NZ Passport in favour of an Irish one.

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                                mariner4life
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                                #62

                                @taniwharugby that bastard!

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                                • RoninWCR RoninWC

                                  My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                  1. W. Crockett
                                  2. D. Coles
                                  3. O. Franks
                                  4. B. Retallick
                                  5. S. Whitelock
                                  6. J. Kaino
                                  7. S. Cane
                                  8. K Read
                                  9. A. Smith
                                  10. B. Barrett
                                  11. J. Savea
                                  12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                  13. M. Fekitoa
                                  14. I. Dagg
                                  15. B. Smith

                                  Reserves
                                  16. C. Taylor
                                  17. J. Moody
                                  18. C. Faumuina
                                  19. L. Squire
                                  20. A. Savea
                                  21. T. Perenara
                                  22. L. Sopoaga

                                  Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                  I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                  And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

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                                  cgrant
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #63

                                  @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                  My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                  1. W. Crockett
                                  2. D. Coles
                                  3. O. Franks
                                  4. B. Retallick
                                  5. S. Whitelock
                                  6. J. Kaino
                                  7. S. Cane
                                  8. K Read
                                  9. A. Smith
                                  10. B. Barrett
                                  11. J. Savea
                                  12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                  13. M. Fekitoa
                                  14. I. Dagg
                                  15. B. Smith

                                  Reserves
                                  16. C. Taylor
                                  17. J. Moody
                                  18. C. Faumuina
                                  19. L. Squire
                                  20. A. Savea
                                  21. T. Perenara
                                  22. L. Sopoaga

                                  Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                  I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                  And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                  Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                  The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

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                                  • C cgrant

                                    @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                    My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                    1. W. Crockett
                                    2. D. Coles
                                    3. O. Franks
                                    4. B. Retallick
                                    5. S. Whitelock
                                    6. J. Kaino
                                    7. S. Cane
                                    8. K Read
                                    9. A. Smith
                                    10. B. Barrett
                                    11. J. Savea
                                    12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                    13. M. Fekitoa
                                    14. I. Dagg
                                    15. B. Smith

                                    Reserves
                                    16. C. Taylor
                                    17. J. Moody
                                    18. C. Faumuina
                                    19. L. Squire
                                    20. A. Savea
                                    21. T. Perenara
                                    22. L. Sopoaga

                                    Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                    I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                    And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                    Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                    The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

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                                    antipodean
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                                    #64

                                    @cgrant said in Ireland II:

                                    Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                    The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

                                    And fewer injuries during the game. Also, a full complement on the field at all times might help the cause.

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                                    • C cgrant

                                      @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                      My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                      1. W. Crockett
                                      2. D. Coles
                                      3. O. Franks
                                      4. B. Retallick
                                      5. S. Whitelock
                                      6. J. Kaino
                                      7. S. Cane
                                      8. K Read
                                      9. A. Smith
                                      10. B. Barrett
                                      11. J. Savea
                                      12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                      13. M. Fekitoa
                                      14. I. Dagg
                                      15. B. Smith

                                      Reserves
                                      16. C. Taylor
                                      17. J. Moody
                                      18. C. Faumuina
                                      19. L. Squire
                                      20. A. Savea
                                      21. T. Perenara
                                      22. L. Sopoaga

                                      Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                      I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                      And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                      Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                      The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

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                                      MajorPom
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #65

                                      @cgrant said in Ireland II:

                                      @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                      My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                      1. W. Crockett
                                      2. D. Coles
                                      3. O. Franks
                                      4. B. Retallick
                                      5. S. Whitelock
                                      6. J. Kaino
                                      7. S. Cane
                                      8. K Read
                                      9. A. Smith
                                      10. B. Barrett
                                      11. J. Savea
                                      12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                      13. M. Fekitoa
                                      14. I. Dagg
                                      15. B. Smith

                                      Reserves
                                      16. C. Taylor
                                      17. J. Moody
                                      18. C. Faumuina
                                      19. L. Squire
                                      20. A. Savea
                                      21. T. Perenara
                                      22. L. Sopoaga

                                      Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                      I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                      And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                      Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                      The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

                                      I'll up that and say it pointed out that we needed a specialist lock starting.

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        @cgrant said in Ireland II:

                                        @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                        My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                        1. W. Crockett
                                        2. D. Coles
                                        3. O. Franks
                                        4. B. Retallick
                                        5. S. Whitelock
                                        6. J. Kaino
                                        7. S. Cane
                                        8. K Read
                                        9. A. Smith
                                        10. B. Barrett
                                        11. J. Savea
                                        12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                        13. M. Fekitoa
                                        14. I. Dagg
                                        15. B. Smith

                                        Reserves
                                        16. C. Taylor
                                        17. J. Moody
                                        18. C. Faumuina
                                        19. L. Squire
                                        20. A. Savea
                                        21. T. Perenara
                                        22. L. Sopoaga

                                        Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                        I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                        And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                        Crockett staying 70 minutes on the field against Itaty makes me guess that Moody will start.
                                        The Chicago game pointed out that the AB need a specialist lock on the bench.

                                        I'll up that and say it pointed out that we needed a specialist lock starting.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        #66

                                        @MajorRage and what is Sam Whitelock's win loss as an AB ratio? Must be not too shabby.

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                                          Jimmy Jimmy
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                                          #67

                                          Taniwha, if he has done those things then that is good. I always felt uneasy about the possibility that the top AB tryscorer may have been someone who permed his hair.

                                          We will have to leave the number of tries at 49 but leave the name blank like Lance Armstrong had his name excised from the record books.

                                          A good day's work boys.

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