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All Blacks v Ireland II

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  • RoninWCR RoninWC

    @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

    My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

    1. W. Crockett
    2. D. Coles
    3. O. Franks
    4. B. Retallick
    5. S. Whitelock
    6. J. Kaino
    7. S. Cane
    8. K Read
    9. A. Smith
    10. B. Barrett
    11. J. Savea
    12. A. Lienart-Brown
    13. M. Fekitoa
    14. I. Dagg
    15. B. Smith

    Reserves
    16. C. Taylor
    17. J. Moody
    18. C. Faumuina
    19. L. Squire
    20. A. Savea
    21. T. Perenara
    22. L. Sopoaga

    Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
    I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

    And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

    @ACT-Crusader
    Thank you for pointing out my arrogance and although I'm pretty sure we can beat the Irish with 22, I think I'll go for the full allotment of 23 just to make sure 😉

    Therefore, with great fanfare I shall announce my No. 23

    1. S. Taminivalu (or R. Crotty if he's available but unsure of the injury status) just thinking that R. Ioane is just a little young for this but there isn't much between Seta and Rieko.

    @Crucial over to you now...

    p.s. Actually after a day or two of contemplation, I'm wavering in my selection of Squire and am leaning towards going with a replacement 2nd rower and in that case I would go with big Patrick.

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    @RoninWC I think they'll select Naholo on the bench and use Smith as the back-up centre. They've done that earlier this season.

    As for the starting XV, the team @Crucial listed looks right to me, provided Whitelock is good to go. If Whitelock isn't 100% there is no reason to put him on the bench - so Pat T starts. Squire was woeful on Chicago so would not make my 23 on form. Barrett in the reserves as insurance for BBBR and to provide specialist cover.

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      I had a look at the comments on that mystique article and mostly they were giving stuff a bollocking for talking crap, also I see Pot Hale was in there stirring a little bit too.

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        I had a look at the comments on that mystique article and mostly they were giving stuff a bollocking for talking crap, also I see Pot Hale was in there stirring a little bit too.

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        @jegga said in Ireland II:

        I had a look at the comments on that mystique article and mostly they were giving stuff a bollocking for talking crap, also I see Pot Hale was in there stirring a little bit too.

        🙂

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          Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,

          Has a similar vibe

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,

            Has a similar vibe

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            @kiwiinmelb said in Ireland II:

            Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,

            Has a similar vibe

            Only issue is most of those second games were at Eden Park...or at the very least in NZ...😳

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              And we were only playing Australia

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                mooshld
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                For once I would like us to get a good start. We seem to keep our powder dry until the second half. But it would be great to see us go out and just start smashing them with some hard straight running.

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                  We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                  Woe is us....

                  ABs by plenty

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                  • raznomoreR raznomore

                    We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                    Woe is us....

                    ABs by plenty

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                    @raznomore said in Ireland II:

                    We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                    Woe is us....

                    ABs by plenty

                    Imagine being that guys kid. Bring home a B in maths. "You're past it, over the hill, its time to move on. We need new blood I am backing your sister for the top job of favorite kid."

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                      @raznomore said in Ireland II:

                      We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                      Woe is us....

                      ABs by plenty

                      Imagine being that guys kid. Bring home a B in maths. "You're past it, over the hill, its time to move on. We need new blood I am backing your sister for the top job of favorite kid."

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                      @mooshld said in Ireland II:

                      @raznomore said in Ireland II:

                      We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                      Woe is us....

                      ABs by plenty

                      Imagine being that guys kid. Bring home a B in maths. "You're past it, over the hill, its time to move on. We need new blood I am backing your sister for the top job of favorite kid."

                      Or simply imagine being that guys kid and having to live with a fuckknuckle as your dad.

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                      • raznomoreR raznomore

                        We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                        Woe is us....

                        ABs by plenty

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                        @raznomore said in Ireland II:

                        We're stuffed. Ratfuck reckons Read is passed his useby.

                        Woe is us....

                        ABs by plenty

                        Just like Richie and Dan were ?

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                        • UniteU Unite

                          @kiwiinmelb said in Ireland II:

                          Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,

                          Has a similar vibe

                          Only issue is most of those second games were at Eden Park...or at the very least in NZ...😳

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                          @Unite said in Ireland II:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in Ireland II:

                          Im actually liking this , its reminding me of when we lose the first Bledisloe , and we are waiting for the second game ,

                          Has a similar vibe

                          Only issue is most of those second games were at Eden Park...or at the very least in NZ...😳

                          And after giving it more thought, we probably haven't had one of those crunch games without the old brigade of Richie and co yet either .

                          I guess we find out a lot about this group, we have seen plenty of how well they play when its all going there way ,

                          Im fairly confident they will be up for it .

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                            Been very little coming out of the camp, there is no way they are not focused, it will burn to be the first ab team to lose to the Irish, I doubt they want another minor tag attached to them either if they are the first ab team this decade to lose back to back to a team, plus then Matt Watsons wet dream will come true and this will be on the verge of being the worst season since 1998.

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                              Boom!

                              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11749668

                              It finally happened! We were arrogant and disrespectful and that's why we lost:
                              "I think they showed a little bit of arrogance there and lack of respect with some of their selections."

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                                Going to be interesting , I would not be overly surprised if we blew them away , and I wouldn't be surprised if it went down to the wire either .

                                I think we will rectify most of the things that went wrong in Chicago such as the breakdown and lineout .

                                i do think they will start beuadan, , love him as a player , but have concerns sooner or later , if he is the goalkicker , it's going to cost us an important test match.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  Boom!

                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11749668

                                  It finally happened! We were arrogant and disrespectful and that's why we lost:
                                  "I think they showed a little bit of arrogance there and lack of respect with some of their selections."

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                                  @nzzp Fuck me that NZH subbie's a piece of work. Click-bait headline or what - "I think they showed a little bit of arrogance there and lack of respect with some of their selections."

                                  Isn't that effectively what 90% of the posts here were saying after the game?

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                                    Think there is an argument for Sops to start and although Ardie carried well in the latter half, there is still room for a seven in the style of Todd whose support line and linking play are excellent.
                                    I say SBarrett has earned a a start alongside BBBR and lets get the Beast mode back into Kaino and a return to an athletic and dominant Read.

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                                      So...Kaino injured.
                                      Moody to get redemption
                                      Smith-BB
                                      LOCKS back and dagg back.

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                                        All Blacks named.

                                        Kaino out.

                                        Whitelock and BBBR back though.

                                        Julian Savea needs a much better performance than the rubbish he served up in Chicago.

                                        All Blacks: Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Malakai Fekitoa, Anton Lienert-Brown, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (captain), Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Dane Coles, Joe Moody. Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Waisake Naholo.

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                                          only real surprises on the bench.

                                          I expected PT on the bench, but maybe there is doubt on the locks, so a more like-for-like replacement was the safer choice (SB has played the house down on his two chances though, good on him). And a straight winger as our back reserve.

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