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    #14

    Didn't realise we don't have any warm up games. I guess they will be relying on Super rugby form/injuries to answer any questions over selections.
    Question marks for me are:

    • Savea vs Naholo for 11.
    • Whether SBW will force his way into the midfield with ALB/Crotty being the first choice as it stands. Think Ngatai's chances are pretty slim and would hope Fekitoa has been passed over by then.
    • Dagg vs NMS for 14. With Ioane an outside chance for 11/14. If he has a big season.
      Would think NMS will need a big Super season to get ahead of Dagg even though he was the starter when he got injured. Dagg has been pretty good this year.
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    @pukunui said in France:

    Didn't realise we don't have any warm up games. I guess they will be relying on Super rugby form/injuries to answer any questions over selections.
    Question marks for me are:

    • Savea vs Naholo for 11.
    • Whether SBW will force his way into the midfield with ALB/Crotty being the first choice as it stands. Think Ngatai's chances are pretty slim and would hope Fekitoa has been passed over by then.
    • Dagg vs NMS for 14. With Ioane an outside chance for 11/14. If he has a big season.
      Would think NMS will need a big Super season to get ahead of Dagg even though he was the starter when he got injured. Dagg has been pretty good this year.

    Yes to all of the above.

    Then, can A.Smith recapture his form?
    Will Kaino & Read hold it together?

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    Cane and BFA ruled out of France game due to injury. PT returns home for personal reasons.

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    reprobate
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    be surprised if a smith doesn't start - forster in the post match said something along the lines of 'more game time' when asked what he needed to do to improve.

    be good to see lima get a decent run, likewise one of the other loosies in an otherwise full strength team.

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    If Ben Smith starts his legend continues to grow. FFS he put in a 10 minute shift at 1/2 back!

    Still don't get the posters who were ripping in to him during the early stages of World Cup last year. He is a legend.

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    Selecting Savea and Naholo against Ireland in Chicago was a big tactical mistake.
    Selecting both of them once again against France could be a good choice since the French flyhalves nor Machenaud don't know how to kick effectively.
    My team would be (assuming Kaino and Crotty are fit) :

    Moody
    Coles
    Franks
    Retallick
    Whitelock
    Kaino
    Todd
    Read
    TJP
    BB
    Savea (remember his outing against Naikataci at the WC)
    Crotty
    ALB
    Naholo
    Dagg

    Sub : Taylor, Crockett, Faumuina, Barrett, Savea, Smith, Sopoaga, Ioane.

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    Looking at 2019, we definitely have some areas of concern. We must find a replacement for Read, Kaino, BFA and improve on our propping depth. Don't see too many no 8s coming through at this stage and that a bit of a worry as I seriously doubt if Read will be still deemed good enough come 2019. Hopefully Piatau comes back and that will help increase the back three depth.

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    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

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    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    The Irish doing their best to turn the game into football. Soft on any contact while encouraging all sorts of hysterics at the referee...

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    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    Bleat about it all you want, World Rugby released an unequivocal announcement prior to the November internationals that they would be cracking down on high shots of all types. Only a fool would have thought they wouldn't take a look at Cane's.

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    There was nothing wrong with Canes tackle.
    It's a fucking joke!

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    Siam
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    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    Bleat about it all you want, World Rugby released an unequivocal announcement prior to the November internationals that they would be cracking down on high shots of all types. Only a fool would have thought they wouldn't take a look at Cane's.

    Apparently the fine print states " unequivocal except when being distracted by decisions about grounding the ball over the try line"

    Goose and gander no?

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    @Siam said in France:

    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    Bleat about it all you want, World Rugby released an unequivocal announcement prior to the November internationals that they would be cracking down on high shots of all types. Only a fool would have thought they wouldn't take a look at Cane's.

    Apparently the fine print states " unequivocal except when being distracted by decisions about grounding the ball over the try line"

    Goose and gander no?

    Go look at what I said in the other thread. Sextons's should have been a penalty and possibly a YC. There were a bunch of other high shots in the game too - Dagg on Stander, Coles (I think) got pinged in the second half. The commissioner decided to pick just the two most egregious, which wouldn't have been my approach but I guess is understandable.

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    You know shits getting serious when someone says egregious

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    Tregaskis
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    @Billy-Tell Don't worry, Gatland will pick Warburton as captain and stack the loose forwards with Welsh.

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    @Tregaskis said in France:

    @Billy-Tell Don't worry, Gatland will pick Warburton as captain and stack the loose forwards with Welsh.

    I think that's a cliche. It's all the Irish ever go on about is gatland choosing Wales players, conveniently forgetting Wales were in good form back in 2013.

    The lions will be mainly England & ireland this time. Warburton might be there but that is because he is actually quite good. However SOB and maybe VDF if he keeps up just form will be right in the mix

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    Siam
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    #30

    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @Siam said in France:

    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    Bleat about it all you want, World Rugby released an unequivocal announcement prior to the November internationals that they would be cracking down on high shots of all types. Only a fool would have thought they wouldn't take a look at Cane's.

    Apparently the fine print states " unequivocal except when being distracted by decisions about grounding the ball over the try line"

    Goose and gander no?

    Go look at what I said in the other thread. Sextons's should have been a penalty and possibly a YC. There were a bunch of other high shots in the game too - Dagg on Stander, Coles (I think) got pinged in the second half. The commissioner decided to pick just the two most egregious, which wouldn't have been my approach but I guess is understandable.

    So its gone from unequivocal to (understandably) the 2 most egregrious.

    These rugby directives that only a fool doesnt see seem to be rather inconsistent

    Im begining to think you dont actualy represent world rugby and are just some rugby follower with a chip.....

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    Tregaskis
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    The Irish loosies were magnificent in the series. SOB I already rated highly, he came back in and monstered us. Heaslip I don't rate as much but he was really good in yesterday's game.

    Stander and VDF are just top quality hard bastards, with the Dutchie blood helpingout there. Stander is an Afrikaner I know, but is VDF one too? Or an Irishman with Dutch parentage?

    I guess Ireland's forwards are at the front of the queue given their obvious success against us this month, but plenty of Gatland's selections will depend on the 6N.

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    #32

    With Bender out I'd actually go with

    1. Sopoaga 14. Dagg 15. Barrett

    France like to offload a lot and play the game at pace. It's a bit disorganised at times, but it's a high risk, high reward style that if you lapse they will sniff the chance. They did this against OZ and also against Fiji.

    The latter test was a blow out because the set piece was dominant also.

    We need speed out on the park.

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    @Siam said in France:

    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @Siam said in France:

    @SimonAdd_2 said in France:

    @booboo said in France:

    BFA and Cane out
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11751917

    And I see @SimonAdd_2 's hashtag campaign worked. Cane cited, which is ridiculous, as is Fekitoa, which is not.

    Bleat about it all you want, World Rugby released an unequivocal announcement prior to the November internationals that they would be cracking down on high shots of all types. Only a fool would have thought they wouldn't take a look at Cane's.

    Apparently the fine print states " unequivocal except when being distracted by decisions about grounding the ball over the try line"

    Goose and gander no?

    Go look at what I said in the other thread. Sextons's should have been a penalty and possibly a YC. There were a bunch of other high shots in the game too - Dagg on Stander, Coles (I think) got pinged in the second half. The commissioner decided to pick just the two most egregious, which wouldn't have been my approach but I guess is understandable.

    So its gone from unequivocal to (understandably) the 2 most egregrious.

    These rugby directives that only a fool doesnt see seem to be rather inconsistent

    Im begining to think you dont actualy represent world rugby and are just some rugby follower with a chip.....

    What the hell are you blithering on about? The directive was clear. The citing commissioner cited the two most serious tackles. The two adjectives were describing different things. I'm sorry if my long words hurt your little noggin.

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