All Blacks v Ireland II
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@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
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@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
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@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
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@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
@taniwharugby He was damn unlucky. Cane wasn't even looking at the player, he was turning his head to avoid the impact!! Can't we have an inadvertent clash of bodies without blaming one person? The Paddy player spun around straight into Cane when he didn't expect it. You could argue that he headbutted Sam's shoulder
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ABs by 12 and under at $3.70 sounds a good option to me....
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
ABs by 12 and under at $3.70 sounds a good option to me....
Did you take this?
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@No-Quarter said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
ALB-Rieko. I'd actually quite like to see that, both hugely exciting players.
I certainly don't want to see that. Reiko showed in the ITM Cup that he really struggles defensively in the midfield.
He could be last man standing and might be given the jersey but I will be holding my breath big time.
In attack he's excellent but right now I'd love to see him on the wing.
Give the 12 jersey to Jordie Barrett and have ALB at 13
@ACT-Crusader Tamanivalu is in the squad too, and he and ALB have played together before. Losing BFA means you lose a back-up midfielder too in the 23. Naholo is NOT a centre as he struggles defensively on the wing.
Agree about Rieko - he's unproven in the midfield but could make the bench vs France with the injuries.
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@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
Two angles can't show different things. That angle was clear - there was no head clash. As for the Barrett try you couldn't see anything on the other angle because the opposition player was in the way.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
Two angles can't show different things. That angle was clear - there was no head clash. As for the Barrett try you couldn't see anything on the other angle because the opposition player was in the way.
@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
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@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
Nah. The angle that shows head clash is an optical illusion.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
Nah. The angle that shows head clash is an optical illusion.
@Rapido same optical illusion that showed Sexton's arm impact BB's head I expect...bloody Irish cameras!
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Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
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@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
They would have said that if he did, no need to start rumours.
Not had much luck with the locks availability on this tour.
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@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
They would have said that if he did, no need to start rumours.
Not had much luck with the locks availability on this tour.
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
They would have said that if he did, no need to start rumours.
Not had much luck with the locks availability on this tour.
I'm not starting rumours. You can infer what you want from my comment
A rumour would be me posting "I heard from someone in the know that paddy was on the piss".
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@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
They would have said that if he did, no need to start rumours.
Not had much luck with the locks availability on this tour.
I'm not starting rumours. You can infer what you want from my comment
A rumour would be me posting "I heard from someone in the know that paddy was on the piss".
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
They would have said that if he did, no need to start rumours.
Not had much luck with the locks availability on this tour.
I'm not starting rumours. You can infer what you want from my comment
A rumour would be me posting "I heard from someone in the know that paddy was on the piss".
No, what you posted floats it as a rumour too. Anyway, as I said the AB management aren't shy of hanging a player out to dry if they break rules on tour. So at best your post was pointless speculation.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@Rapido same optical illusion that showed Sexton's arm impact BB's head I expect...bloody Irish cameras!
I hope the judiciary have better video to view than we do. The trouble seems to be that the whole thing is so quick that 24fps (or whatever it is) doesn't catch the same frames from each angle. I am stuff if I can manage to stop the reverse angle one at the same impact moment as the angle from behind Cane.
Watch Henshaws head. from behind Cane you can clearly see him leading toward Cane with his head first. In the other angle you can only catch his head leaning back looking like he has taken impact from the shoulder. It's like there is missing film.
Henshaws head goes straight into Cane's neck/jaw first, then the shoulder connects.
As mentioned by others Cane isn't even expecting to make a tackle, He is coming in fast to support the expected tackle that Henshaw spins out of and straight at him head first.
The whole thing is a freak accident and one of those things that can happen when bodies are bouncing around at speed. -
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
Pat T is heading home for personal reasons. Don't think he would have played anyway, but hope for him it's not another bereavement.
http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/800311226777661441
Edit: old news, I see ...
His form has been very disappointing. I hope "personal reasons" doesn't mean he's be on the booze, or broke team protocol etc.
I'm sorry Billy but I'm going to use your post as an example of what's fucked in the world of media and social media.
This leaping to speculative unfound conclusions in the hope of saying "see told ya" is grossly unfair.
The Hansen no comment strategy is designed to allow the man some privacy, not an invitation to smear him based on fantasy.
Why can't people just say "well let's reserve judgment till the facts are out" and if no facts come out then what the hell it's nobody's business but those directly related.
Speculating booze or breaking rules is pointless, derogatory and unhelpful.
Whats the difference between your speculation and "hope he hasn't been fucking kids and raping nuns" ?
There are countless examples of sports people getting tainted by people speculating and making shit up for their personal titilation.
Let's not further publically plumb the depths of fuckwittery.
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@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
@hydro11 said in Ireland II:
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
Reckless, but not malicious IMHO. Slowmo always looks shit, but Cane has come in at the wrong height and then, realising it, has turned away.
Understand Hansen wasn't happy about the questions on discipline after the game, too. Some Irishmen definitely aren't:
http://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/800286268961787904
Later, Kinsella also said this:
http://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/800332149715075072
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I feel sorry for any player getting injured, but the universe sometimes has its ways of restoring balance (karma?):
