All Blacks v Ireland II
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@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
I'd pay to see that.
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Am not a Mark Watson fan but I have to say his introduction to his 7pm show was brilliant. Could not have agreed more and was funny seeing a coupe of Irish callers ringing in and losing it over what he said. Here's the link for anyone interested. Skip to the 7.00 minute mark.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.23-19.00.00-D.mp3
@akan004 said in Ireland II:
Am not a Mark Watson fan but I have to say his introduction to his 7pm show was brilliant. Could not have agreed more and was funny seeing a coupe of Irish callers ringing in and losing it over what he said. Here's the link for anyone interested. Skip to the 7.00 minute mark.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.23-19.00.00-D.mp3
I hate you for making me listen to Watson. But yes, you are correct he was bang on. Who'd a thunk it?
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
Can you imagine the response if Krustys team was reffed like that and then had the Irish media behaving likes such idiots?
I'd pay to be at the press conference after the game. I think I would have to bring my owe beers though
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Wreck-Diver said in Ireland II:
@reprobate said in Ireland II:
@Siam spot on mate, i would love to see teams marched 10 for repeated whinging.
Could you imagine Cheika's response to More being marched 10
Can you imagine the response if Krustys team was reffed like that and then had the Irish media behaving likes such idiots?
I'd pay to be at the press conference after the game. I think I would have to bring my owe beers though
@jegga Beat me to it Jegs
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@akan004 I haven't listened to him before and am told he's a wankstain - which I can easily see from thath little bit. But I have to admit I did have a bit of a laugh at the BOD interview.
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@Bones i gave up listening when the drunk weirdo came on whinging about the million dollar salaries and the NZRU being broke
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@Bones i gave up listening when the drunk weirdo came on whinging about the million dollar salaries and the NZRU being broke
He cut the weirdo off because he was talking crap and then went to the BOD interview. BOD hasn't changed much over the years it seems, a mad irish woman came on after that and the bit ended. Well worth listening too.
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Are the Irish really whinging that much? Easy to listen to a vocal few and ignore the masses.
@hydro11 said in Ireland II:
Are the Irish really whinging that much? Easy to listen to a vocal few and ignore the masses.
Well theres their captain for a start http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/ulster-rugby/ireland-captain-rory-best-my-concerns-as-a-parent-over-rugby-safety-35231785.html
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@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
Forgot about the english guy, I'm surprised talkback is still a thing to be honest.
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I'm thinking they'll probably reach peak whine when they drag out BOD for a comment about all black thuggery, he made a cock of himself over the Coleman incident and he's probably spent the better part of the day trying to pick the right hashtag.
@jegga said in Ireland II:
I'm thinking they'll probably reach peak whine when they drag out BOD for a comment about all black thuggery, he made a cock of himself over the Coleman incident and he's probably spent the better part of the day trying to pick the right hashtag.
Sorry which was that? Was that when Ben Smith viciously body charged Adam Coleman's shoulder in Wellington? What he say?
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@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
Forgot about the english guy, I'm surprised talkback is still a thing to be honest.
@jegga said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
Forgot about the english guy, I'm surprised talkback is still a thing to be honest.
You are? Frankly I reckon it can be good.
Essentially we indulge in our form of it on here.
But I reckon hosts drive the for want of a better word "culture". And to misquote a well known saying the hosts then get the show they deserve. Act feral get ferals involved.
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@reprobate I was annoyed we didn't score more and that the Irish weren't down to 14 men at stages.
@Bones said in Ireland II:
@reprobate I was annoyed we didn't score more and that the Irish weren't down to 14 men at stages.
Yeah seeing them go through 12,989 phases against 14 men and failing to score I wasn't particularly worried. I was most pissed off with the ab discipline and them not getting more pill. When they had the ball they were carving up.
A late try would have made the scoreline look unflattering, but barring a major brain explosion I always felt the abs were going to do it comfortably enough.
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Ah the BOD thing wasn't really very funny imo. You lose any moral high ground when you head in that direction It is talkback after all though...
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
I'm thinking they'll probably reach peak whine when they drag out BOD for a comment about all black thuggery, he made a cock of himself over the Coleman incident and he's probably spent the better part of the day trying to pick the right hashtag.
Sorry which was that? Was that when Ben Smith viciously body charged Adam Coleman's shoulder in Wellington? What he say?
@booboo https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/brian-odriscoll-leads-criticism-unpunished-all-black-savagery-after-owen-franks-eye-gouging-debacle
Sorry it was the Kane Douglas "gouge" that was covered here at the time, Stephen Jones waded in calling a victim of unchecked all black thuggery.
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
Forgot about the english guy, I'm surprised talkback is still a thing to be honest.
You are? Frankly I reckon it can be good.
Essentially we indulge in our form of it on here.
But I reckon hosts drive the for want of a better word "culture". And to misquote a well known saying the hosts then get the show they deserve. Act feral get ferals involved.
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@jegga There was another weirdo before BOD too. English git.
That Irish woman after BOD seemed to from the same school too ...
Obviously cultivates a cultured* audience.
- in a petri dish
Forgot about the english guy, I'm surprised talkback is still a thing to be honest.
You are? Frankly I reckon it can be good.
Essentially we indulge in our form of it on here.
But I reckon hosts drive the for want of a better word "culture". And to misquote a well known saying the hosts then get the show they deserve. Act feral get ferals involved.
I thought things like this forum, stuff nation and suchlike would have soaked up most of the nations ranting.
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Ah the BOD thing wasn't really very funny imo. You lose any moral high ground when you head in that direction It is talkback after all though...
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
Ah the BOD thing wasn't really very funny imo. You lose any moral high ground when you head in that direction It is talkback after all though...
Well now the arbiter of moral high ground has spoken, I feel ashamed
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Ah the BOD thing wasn't really very funny imo. You lose any moral high ground when you head in that direction It is talkback after all though...
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
Ah the BOD thing wasn't really very funny imo. You lose any moral high ground when you head in that direction It is talkback after all though...
Mark Watson couldn't find the moral high ground with a map and a telescope so theres that.
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@molloyjh said in Ireland II:
Ah now there are more level headed reactions in fairness:
http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-missed-chances-all-blacks-3092438-Nov2016/
http://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-aviva-match-report-2016-3090747-Nov2016/
I'd also point out that there cannot be any question that NZ have a discipline issue at the moment. 12-4 was the penalty count in Chicago. 14-4 in Dublin. 3 yellow cards across both Tests to 0. 2 citings to 0. And the citing commissioner apparently referred 12 incidents in the game on Saturday back to the teams. 11 of those to NZ. While I don't like the whinging and the moaning it's pretty clear there is a discipline issue there that can't be ignored.
The Test on the weekend was a one-sided joke from the refereeing. There should have been at least one yellow card for Ireland and Aaron Smith should never have been penalised. Ireland had carte blanche at the ruck and how you get a scrum for being the last man in defence knocking a pass down is beyond baffling.
@antipodean said in Ireland II:
@molloyjh said in Ireland II:
Ah now there are more level headed reactions in fairness:
http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-missed-chances-all-blacks-3092438-Nov2016/
http://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-aviva-match-report-2016-3090747-Nov2016/
I'd also point out that there cannot be any question that NZ have a discipline issue at the moment. 12-4 was the penalty count in Chicago. 14-4 in Dublin. 3 yellow cards across both Tests to 0. 2 citings to 0. And the citing commissioner apparently referred 12 incidents in the game on Saturday back to the teams. 11 of those to NZ. While I don't like the whinging and the moaning it's pretty clear there is a discipline issue there that can't be ignored.
The Test on the weekend was a one-sided joke from the refereeing. There should have been at least one yellow card for Ireland and Aaron Smith should never have been penalised. Ireland had carte blanche at the ruck and how you get a scrum for being the last man in defence knocking a pass down is beyond baffling.
So how does that explain Chicago? Was that a one sided joke as well? Given that both games had pretty consistent stats with regards discipline are you happy to just write that off? And how does the above comment not fit with the whinging description that Irish fans and media have been labelled with?
A lot of Irish fans and media have gone totally overboard (and quite frankly bat shit crazy at times) with what happened at the weekend, but I've also seen a corresponding extreme from a lot of NZ fans and media refusing to acknowledge that there are discipline issues. If the roles were reversed I'd be very focused on the penalty count issue for Ireland and desperately want to see an improvement. I wouldn't be looking to sweep it all under the rug and blame the opponents for daring to speak of it. The truth often tends to be in the middle somewhere. The 2 extremes that we're seeing (NZ are cheating bastards who always get away with it as opposed to the NZ are being victimised buy the ref and opposition) are equally unfair reactions to what went on in what was, all officiating issues aside, a superb contest.
