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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • H hydro11

    @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Well, I've got no idea what they're doing - aside from waiting for Rossco to get his hundred.

    Watling making no effort whatsoever to push the scoring along - he's batting for a draw with 5 off 31.

    Doull has some half-arsed theory that they think they already have enough runs and just want Ross to get his hundred. If that's the case and BJ is just there playing for his average, why didn't they send someone like Southee or Wagner out there, who don't need to worry about their averages?

    Styris making more sense and saying get on with it.

    If they have enough, you declare. If Taylor is on 26, 96 or 296 it shouldn't matter.

    Great hundred from him, however. Batted at a good rate and played confident cricket.

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    @hydro11 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    If they have enough, you declare. If Taylor is on 26, 96 or 296 it shouldn't matter.

    Great hundred from him, however. Batted at a good rate and played confident cricket.

    I don't mind them waiting two or three overs to let someone get a hundred - those statistics are important in assessing someone's career and can help build confidence for the future.

    I simply can't understand what Watling was doing - given CDG went out there and smashed it and Rossco was batting urgently.

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      @hydro11 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      If they have enough, you declare. If Taylor is on 26, 96 or 296 it shouldn't matter.

      Great hundred from him, however. Batted at a good rate and played confident cricket.

      I don't mind them waiting two or three overs to let someone get a hundred - those statistics are important in assessing someone's career and can help build confidence for the future.

      I simply can't understand what Watling was doing - given CDG went out there and smashed it and Rossco was batting urgently.

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      @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      @hydro11 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      If they have enough, you declare. If Taylor is on 26, 96 or 296 it shouldn't matter.

      Great hundred from him, however. Batted at a good rate and played confident cricket.

      I don't mind them waiting two or three overs to let someone get a hundred - those statistics are important in assessing someone's career and can help build confidence for the future.

      I agree.. roscoe has had a lean run.. it's good to give him some time and build confidence for the summer ahead.. also helps roscoe get one more closer to our national test ton record

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        Bad declaration imo.

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          The only times a team has scored more than 369 in the 4th innings in New Zealand ere both by New Zealand against England and both were lost. There was the famous Astle double century test in 2002. Then there was Southee's debut test in Napier where he also went crazy. The best score by a foreign team was India's 366 in Auckland in early 2014. The highest successful chase was by the West Indies in Auckland in 1965. They chased down 348 to win. We have also chased down plus 300 vs Pakistan in 1994 and England have done it to us. Both of those latter two games were in Christchurch.

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            The only times a team has scored more than 369 in the 4th innings in New Zealand ere both by New Zealand against England and both were lost. There was the famous Astle double century test in 2002. Then there was Southee's debut test in Napier where he also went crazy. The best score by a foreign team was India's 366 in Auckland in early 2014. The highest successful chase was by the West Indies in Auckland in 1965. They chased down 348 to win. We have also chased down plus 300 vs Pakistan in 1994 and England have done it to us. Both of those latter two games were in Christchurch.

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            @hydro11 Yeah - I'm pretty doubtful that Pakistan will get close - and they probably won't be trying - at least initially. But if they can get well past lunch with no more than a couple of wickets down, they'll doubtless re-assess the prospects and balance of drawing the series compared with not losing the test - and think about having a bit of a slog for a while.

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              How's the pitch playing? If Rosco got a ton I'm assuming it has settled into being a good batting track

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                How's the pitch playing? If Rosco got a ton I'm assuming it has settled into being a good batting track

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                @canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                How's the pitch playing? If Rosco got a ton I'm assuming it has settled into being a good batting track

                Yes it is a bit easier to bat on now. Still a bit there for the bowlers with the new ball but as Latham showed, if your defence is solid early on then there are runs to be made.

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  @canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  How's the pitch playing? If Rosco got a ton I'm assuming it has settled into being a good batting track

                  Yes it is a bit easier to bat on now. Still a bit there for the bowlers with the new ball but as Latham showed, if your defence is solid early on then there are runs to be made.

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                  No problem with the weather tomorrow and there should be some cloud cover around to assist the bowlers. Henry must be due some luck.

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                    Wagner will make life uncomfortable for the batters

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                      Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                      All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

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                        Wagner will make life uncomfortable for the batters

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                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                        Wagner will make life uncomfortable for the batters

                        Yup, no major demons in the pitch but it's far from a road, some variable bounce at times which Wagner will exploit. Will take a huge effort from Pakistan to save this game.

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                          Feel a little sorry for the Pakistani bowlers today. It was blowing a gale in the Tron, would have been shit to bowl from either end. Here's hoping the weather calms down for us tomorrow.

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                            Feel a little sorry for the Pakistani bowlers today. It was blowing a gale in the Tron, would have been shit to bowl from either end. Here's hoping the weather calms down for us tomorrow.

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                            @Mokey I don't feel sorry for them at all. If the boot is on the other foot we are flogging ourselves out on dustbowls in 35-40 degree heat. I hope tomorrow is cold and overcast πŸ˜‰

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                              Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                              All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

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                              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                              Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                              All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                              They play all their tests overseas πŸ˜‰

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                              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                They play all their tests overseas πŸ˜‰

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                                @African-Monkey said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                They play all their tests overseas πŸ˜‰

                                Ha. Was waiting for someone to mention that.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                  All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

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                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                  Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                  All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                  You talking about the number 2 test side in the world who haven't lost a series in their last 12 and drew 2 all in England?

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                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                    Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                    All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                    You talking about the number 2 test side in the world who haven't lost a series in their last 12 and drew 2 all in England?

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                                    @Siam said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                    Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                    All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                    You talking about the number 2 test side in the world who haven't lost a series in their last 12 and drew 2 all in England?

                                    Yep I am. They lost soundly in the last test and sure as shit won't win this one so it's looking at least 1-0 to the BCs comfortably.

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                                      Pakistan have done a good job of parking the bus mid-pitch.

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                                        Pakistan have done a good job of parking the bus mid-pitch.

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                                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        Pakistan have done a good job of parking the bus mid-pitch.

                                        Had no idea Savea was back in country already..

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Siam said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                          All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                          You talking about the number 2 test side in the world who haven't lost a series in their last 12 and drew 2 all in England?

                                          Yep I am. They lost soundly in the last test and sure as shit won't win this one so it's looking at least 1-0 to the BCs comfortably.

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                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @Siam said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          Shot Black Caps and great work Rossco. Again, what a record for a NZ batsman.

                                          All over tomorrow. Just like their predecessors this Pakistan team can't play too well overseas.

                                          You talking about the number 2 test side in the world who haven't lost a series in their last 12 and drew 2 all in England?

                                          Yep I am. They lost soundly in the last test and sure as shit won't win this one so it's looking at least 1-0 to the BCs comfortably.

                                          Barely a run an over to date, going to be a long day at this rate. Least there's a chance of the day being called off early if there's no chance of bowling them out.

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