Wallaby EOYT 2016
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Im getting very worried about this game. Billy V's carrying game has been vital to the way England have played under Jones so far, and with Itoje and Haskell out we're missing our two best ruck clearers. Pooper could do a number on us like they did in the World Cup.
Add to that that our defence has looked brittle at times this November and the Austin back line is still very very good given quick ball, plus they'll have been targeting this match for 6 months. If Australia get their tails up it could even turn nasty for England.
@SimonAdd_2 said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
the Austin back line
Are they playing at Twickers or are you going to Texas?
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I hope Aus win.
- I like Eddie less than Chek (mentioned above ... this may change with whatever curcumstances are current at the time though)
- Stops England's run.
- Good for the sport here in Aus. Always needs as much positivity as it can get.
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Or should I say i dislike Chek less than Eddie ...
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I find it funny that we are supporting Australia to win because of the record when we laughed at the Aussies celebrating Irelands win over us
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@SimonAdd_2 said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
the Austin back line
Are they playing at Twickers or are you going to Texas?
@NTA said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@SimonAdd_2 said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
the Austin back line
Are they playing at Twickers or are you going to Texas?
Posting from my phone, it doesn't like Aussie.
Can't say I blame it.
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I find it funny that we are supporting Australia to win because of the record when we laughed at the Aussies celebrating Irelands win over us
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@Hooroo I'm cool with a 8-8 draw.
@taniwharugby said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@Hooroo I'm cool with a 8-8 draw.
Aw come on - that would mean the Poms scored a try.
What about 12-all? That way it can be 4 Pommy penalty goals to two tries, one conversion by us
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What day and time and channel is the broadcast in oz please?
I shall be vociforously cheering on 'straya....unless someone be's a complete cock. Such is my fickle demeanour
@Siam said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
What day and time and channel is the broadcast in oz please?
I shall be vociforously cheering on 'straya....unless someone be's a complete cock. Such is my fickle demeanour
SBS listing the South Australian timeslot as 12:55AM Sunday morning, BTW
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@taniwharugby said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@Hooroo I'm cool with a 8-8 draw.
Aw come on - that would mean the Poms scored a try.
What about 12-all? That way it can be 4 Pommy penalty goals to two tries, one conversion by us
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@NTA was a penalty try and they missed the conversion for the win...that ok
@taniwharugby said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@NTA was a penalty try and they missed the conversion for the win...that ok
Oh that's utter bastardry!
As long as its not from a scrum penalty, and the conversion attempt ricochets off the crossbar to hit Owen Farrell in the head!
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England squad for Saturday as expected. Hughes and Yarde start. The former will be interesting as he's not been in anything like the form he was in last season and needs a big game to fill Vunipola's shoes.
England XV: M Brown (Harlequins); M Yarde (Harlequins), J Joseph (Bath), O Farrell (Saracens), J May (Gloucester); G Ford (Bath), B Youngs (Leicester); M Vunipola (Saracens), D Hartley (Northampton, capt), D Cole (Leicester), C Lawes (Northampton), G Kruis (Saracens), C Robshaw (Harlequins), T Wood (Northampton), N Hughes (Wasps).
Replacements: J George (Saracens), J Marler (Harlequins), K Sinckler (Harlequins), C Ewels (Bath), T Harrison (Northampton), D Care (Harlequins), B Te'o (Worcester), H Slade (Exeter).
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I guess the big question here is whether Clown-boy has the tactical smarts to devise a gameplan that out-thinks Percentage-Eddie.
I tend to think that the Wobblies have worked so hard on getting the selections right and the players playing well that game strategy hasn't had the right level of focus.
If Cheika feels he has the team operating OK then can he come up with the right ideas? England are not going to fall into the trap of kicking to Folau or using high balls, they are likely to uses Ireland's forward style with their steriod brutes but look to use the backs more within the attacking zone.
Australia need to continually shift the point of attack when they get the ball and hunt down any space they exploit. One thing the poms aren't used to is defending against is continually changing threats, -
I guess the big question here is whether Clown-boy has the tactical smarts to devise a gameplan that out-thinks Percentage-Eddie.
I tend to think that the Wobblies have worked so hard on getting the selections right and the players playing well that game strategy hasn't had the right level of focus.
If Cheika feels he has the team operating OK then can he come up with the right ideas? England are not going to fall into the trap of kicking to Folau or using high balls, they are likely to uses Ireland's forward style with their steriod brutes but look to use the backs more within the attacking zone.
Australia need to continually shift the point of attack when they get the ball and hunt down any space they exploit. One thing the poms aren't used to is defending against is continually changing threats,@Crucial said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
I guess the big question here is whether Clown-boy has the tactical smarts to devise a gameplan that out-thinks Percentage-Eddie.
I tend to think that the Wobblies have worked so hard on getting the selections right and the players playing well that game strategy hasn't had the right level of focus.
If Cheika feels he has the team operating OK then can he come up with the right ideas? England are not going to fall into the trap of kicking to Folau or using high balls, they are likely to uses Ireland's forward style with their steriod brutes but look to use the backs more within the attacking zone.
Australia need to continually shift the point of attack when they get the ball and hunt down any space they exploit. One thing the poms aren't used to is defending against is continually changing threats,I think one thing we saw in the June series was that in the first 10 minutes of the first Test England looked shellshocked at the speed and intensity of Australia's attack. Thankfully they adapted quickly, but it was clear that it was a step up from anything they faced in the Six Nations or domestic rugby.
Based on what we've faced so far in this series, England could be vulnerable to a similar blitz again.
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As expected, England have Hughes in for Billy Vunipola and Yarde in for the suspended Daly. Eddie is persisting with Harrison as the back up back row option and has preferred Ewels over Atwood as back up lock, which is probably more surprising.
Aus looked very good in parts v Ireland and as England seem to have found a bit of defensive frailty they will need to b fully on song against a good attack. @SimonAdd_2 mentioned that we will need to boss the breakdown otherwise the Pooper will be all over us and it will look like RWC pool stage all over again, however the big confidence booster for me was Noddy saying how much of a different team Aus are now than the summer. Hmmm.
England Team to face Aus:-
M Brown (Harlequins); M Yarde (Harlequins), J Joseph (Bath), O Farrell (Saracens), J May (Gloucester); G Ford (Bath), B Youngs (Leicester)
M Vunipola (Saracens), D Hartley (Northampton, capt), D Cole (Leicester), C Lawes (Northampton), G Kruis (Saracens), C Robshaw (Harlequins), T Wood (Northampton), N Hughes (Wasps).
Replacements: J George (Saracens), J Marler (Harlequins), K Sinckler (Harlequins), C Ewels (Bath), T Harrison (Northampton), D Care (Harlequins), B Te'o (Worcester), H Slade (Exeter).
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Australia's forwards aren't likely to be bullied. so if this isn't a Test too far, the difference may be in the backs where the Wallabies are more threatening (if they don't keep bombing their chances).
Should be the game of the year.
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Qantas Wallabies team to play England at Twickenham Stadium, London, on Saturday 3 December, 2.30pm local time (1.30am Sunday 4 December AEDT)
- Scott Sio (29 Tests)
- Stephen Moore (c) (116 Tests)
- Sekope Kepu (76 Tests)
- Kane Douglas (30 Tests)
- Rob Simmons (70 Tests)
- David Pocock (65 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (64 Tests)
- Lopeti Timani (5 Tests)
- Nick Phipps (51 Tests)
- Bernard Foley (41 Tests)
- Sefanaia Naivalu (5 Tests)
- Reece Hodge (9 Tests)
- Tevita Kuridrani (44 Tests)
- Dane Haylett-Petty (13 Tests)
- Israel Folau (51 Tests)
Reserves
- Tolu Latu (3 Tests)
- James Slipper (85 Tests)
- Tom Robertson (6 Tests)
- Dean Mumm (56 Tests)
- Sean McMahon (14 Tests)
- Nick Frisby (4 Tests)
- Quade Cooper (66 Tests)
- Henry Speight (10 Tests)
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Qantas Wallabies team to play England at Twickenham Stadium, London, on Saturday 3 December, 2.30pm local time (1.30am Sunday 4 December AEDT)
- Scott Sio (29 Tests)
- Stephen Moore (c) (116 Tests)
- Sekope Kepu (76 Tests)
- Kane Douglas (30 Tests)
- Rob Simmons (70 Tests)
- David Pocock (65 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (64 Tests)
- Lopeti Timani (5 Tests)
- Nick Phipps (51 Tests)
- Bernard Foley (41 Tests)
- Sefanaia Naivalu (5 Tests)
- Reece Hodge (9 Tests)
- Tevita Kuridrani (44 Tests)
- Dane Haylett-Petty (13 Tests)
- Israel Folau (51 Tests)
Reserves
- Tolu Latu (3 Tests)
- James Slipper (85 Tests)
- Tom Robertson (6 Tests)
- Dean Mumm (56 Tests)
- Sean McMahon (14 Tests)
- Nick Frisby (4 Tests)
- Quade Cooper (66 Tests)
- Henry Speight (10 Tests)
@NTA Good team Nick, although I don't know much about Naivalu. Is he the goods?
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Scored against Ireland. Winger at the Melbourne Rebels who recently got his residency. Fijian. Quick. Big. Defence? Well I'm not sure I've seen enough of England to suggest they'll go wide against him. Or anyone.
Speight was a little bit "meh" through the tour, but this is a big call.
Not sure why Arnold isn't there. No reports of injury. Alaalatoa injured so Slipper on the bench. Other than that, pretty standard.
Lineout will need to have it's shit together, that's for fucking sure
