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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Is it a new development in Super Rugby that un-contracted players join SR squads for preseason as either injury cover or "supplementary" players? Or did it always happen and the public were just not told about it?

    After the news that Magpies Jonah Lowe and Tiaan Falcon would join the Canes for preseason, and then 7 players were invited to join the Blues, now Southland first-five Wharenui Hawera has been invited to join the Brumbies for preseason:

    https://www.brumbies.com.au/2016/12/hawera-looking-take-opportunity-brumbies/

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    Bovidae
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    @Stargazer The Chiefs have always ran an extended squad that included development players and extra bodies for opposed trainings.

    I saw Hawera play regularly for Waikato and his club side and never thought he was Super rugby material. Good luck to him though. Jordan Smiler is there too.

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      See who you can see in this video from Wednesday:

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      • Cantab79C Cantab79

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

        It's a pity that the ARU didn't adopt a better method such as the investment the AFL does in establishing new clubs.

        The AFL has spent over $80 million each on the Suns and GWS since 2011 to get them established. Almost $200 million in total. I'm sure if the ARU had that kind of money to throw at new teams they'd all be very successful.

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        @Cantab79 It's not just the dollar value, it's the foresight and professionalism.

        When you've got a salary cap of $10 million per annum, it's not hard to rack up an $80 million bill in six years.

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          JAMES BROADHURST TO CONTINUE REHAB ON HIS OWN TERMS
          08.12.2016

          Hurricanes lock James Broadhurst will remain a member of the Investec Super Rugby champion's squad for 2017, but will continue his rehabilitation from concussion on his own terms.
          
          Broadhurst, who has been out of the game since suffering dual head knocks during a Mitre 10 Cup match while playing for Taranaki in August 2015, has not placed a deadline for a return to training.
          
          The 28-year-old said he understood the public and media interest in his injury, but asked for privacy as he continued his recovery.
          
          "It has been difficult being unable to play the game I love for the past 15 months, but dealing with concussion is not something you can rush and in the end my long term health is the primary focus.
          
          "I will be continuing a graduated return to exercise away from the team environment because, although I have made progress over the past year I do still experience headaches when my heart rate is elevated.
          
          "On the advice of my medical advisers I won't consider a return to full training until I'm completely symptom free for the required period of time."
          
          Broadhurst said he would continue to be guided by the concussion management protocols set out by New Zealand Rugby and the Hurricanes and was grateful to both organisations for the support he had received to this point.
          
          Hurricanes coach Chris Boyd said Broadhurst had the full support of the 2017 coaching, management and playing group.
          
          "We all understand what James is going through and will continue to support him through the process of his rehabilitation and recovery.
          
          "Concussion is a serious issue and the important thing is our players know they have the full support of the club.
          
          "We believe New Zealand Rugby has robust return to play protocols in place to deal with concussion and we will continue to be guided by those processes."
          

          http://www.hurricanes.co.nz/the-canes/news/single/item/james-broadhurst-to-continue-rehab-on-his-own-terms/

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            @taniwharugby I am surprised that Little and Vui are not rated ahead of Dunn and Robinson (although I did like what I saw of Robinson, especially in the latter part of the npc. How old is he?). Do Umaga and Jackson have issues with them, not rate them or are they off overseas?

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            @Daffy-Jaffy Michael Little spotted at a Highlanders training camp this week...

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              @Daffy-Jaffy Michael Little spotted at a Highlanders training camp this week...

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              @Kiwidom Keep pumping the good oil. 🙂

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              • TimT Tim

                @Kiwidom Keep pumping the good oil. 🙂

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                @Tim Pretty sure Bryn Gatland was there also this week. I guess with Fekitoa and Sopoaga on extended leave they are there as cover on short term contracts

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                  That's interesting re: Gatland. I thought I spied him in this Blues training video posted Dec 8.
                  At min - 1:40 getting up behind Nanai who is hammering a tyre then at min - 1:52 last man at the end of a floor crawl?

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    That's interesting re: Gatland. I thought I spied him in this Blues training video posted Dec 8.
                    At min - 1:40 getting up behind Nanai who is hammering a tyre then at min - 1:52 last man at the end of a floor crawl?

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy You may be right with that video being him. Check out the Highlanders Facebook page tho, (am having trouble uploading the photo on here) bottom left is Little and beside him it looks like Bryn Gatland

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      That's interesting re: Gatland. I thought I spied him in this Blues training video posted Dec 8.
                      At min - 1:40 getting up behind Nanai who is hammering a tyre then at min - 1:52 last man at the end of a floor crawl?

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy @Kiwidom Isn't that Trainor behind Nanai?

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Daffy-Jaffy @Kiwidom Isn't that Trainor behind Nanai?

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                        @Stargazer That is not Trainor. Does look like Bryn Gatland.

                        I see Caleb Clarke (Eroni's son, NZ Schools centre) is being kept around the Blues environment, having him alongside Blues to speak to U17 Blues players.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Daffy-Jaffy @Kiwidom Isn't that Trainor behind Nanai?

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                          @Stargazer Deffinitely Bryn Gatland

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                            Sunwolves squad to be announced later today.

                            Tanaka is in the squad.

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                              Sunwolves squad to be announced later today.

                              Tanaka is in the squad.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:

                              Sunwolves squad to be announced later today.

                              Tanaka is in the squad.

                              For some dumb reason, I only just realised he's not in the Landers squad. Geez, Hammington and Renton as Aaron Smith's backups is a bit rough, they're gonna have to hope Aaron Smith both comes back into form and stays fit. He had a bit of Tiger Woods syndrome on the EOYT but hopefully he recovers over the Summer.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Sunwolves squad to be announced later today.

                                Tanaka is in the squad.

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                                @KiwiMurph Good to see. Hopefully more of their internationals head back there.

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                                  http://twitter.com/JapanRugbyClub/status/808167025868607490

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                                    This is the Sunwolves squad including caps (27 of the 36 players are Japanese internationals):

                                    Forwards:

                                    Masataka Mikami (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 14 caps), Keita Inagaki (Panasonic Wild Knights, 10 caps), Koki Yamamoto (Yamaha Jubilo, 1 cap), Heiichiro Ito (Yamaha Jubilo, 0 cap), Koo Jiwon (Takushoku Univ.), Takuma Asahara (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 14 caps), Koki Yamamoto (Yamaha Jubilo, 8 caps), Shota Horie (Panasonic Wild Knights, 12 caps), Takeshi Kizu (Kobelco Steelers, 12 caps), Takeshi Hino (Yamaha Jubilo, 0 cap), Hitoshi Ono (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 12 caps), Shinya Makabe (Suntory Sungoliath, 6 caps), Liaki Moli (Auckland, 38 caps), Kyosuke Kajikawa (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 0 cap), Eddie Quirk (?, 53 caps), Yuhimaru Mimura (Yamaha Jubilo, 0 cap), Shuhei Matsuhashi (Ricoh Black Rams, 0 cap), Uwe Helu (Yamaha Jubilo, 0 cap), Malgene Ilaua (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 0 cap), Yoshitaka Tokunaga (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 0 cap), Willie Britz (NTT Shining Arcs, 24 caps)
                                    

                                    Backs:

                                    Fumiaki Tanaka (Panasonic Wild Knights, 43 caps), Kaito Shigeno (NEC Green Rockets, 11 caps), Yuki Yatomi (Yamaha Jubilo, 10 caps), Keisuke Uchida (Panasonic Wild Knights, 0 cap), Takahiro Ogawa (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 0 cap), Harumichi Tatekawa (Kubota Spears, 13 caps), Yu Tamura (NEC Green Rockets, 15 caps), Hikaru Tamura (Toshiba Brave Lupus, 0 cap),  Hayden Cripps (Tokyo Gas, 0 cap), Derek Carpenter (Suntory Sungoliath, 12 caps), Timothy Lafaele (Coca-Cola Red Sparks, 0 cap), Kenki Fukuoka (Panasonic Wild Knights, 0 cap), Teruya Goto (NEC Green Rockets, 0 cap),  Riaan Viljoen (NTT-Docomo Red Hurricanes, 64 caps), Kotaro Matsushima (Suntory Sungoliath, 4 caps), Yasutaka Sasakura (Panasonic Wild Knights, 9 caps)
                                    

                                    source: http://www.japonrugby.net/l-effectif-2017-des-sunwolves-devoile-.php

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                                      I wonder how many Japanese players turn down the opportunity to play for the Sunwolves or aren't released from their club? Was a player like Yamashita considered?

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                                        Looks to me like the Sunwolves are being put to good use to bolster the depth of Japan rugby pre the RWC. Good on them as I'm sure a bit of Yen could have been thrown around to scoop up a load of fringe Super players from other countries but they have resisted that temptation.

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                                          What has happened to Sa'u. Doesn't seem to be in the Blues squad (rightly) and not in the Sunwolves.

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