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Exodus 2017

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    KiwiMurph
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    #147

    For all the shit he cops on here Ofa T is developing into a nice replacement option - not quite at Charlie's level but he's dynamic around the field and has scrummed well every time he has donned the AB jersey.

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      Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
      Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

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      Nepia
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      #148

      @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

      Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
      Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

      McAlister was ripping it up too before coming back and looking out of place (bar that match in Sydney ;)) in an AB jersey.

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      • C Crash

        Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
        Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

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        Bones
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        @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

        Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
        Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

        I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

        Piutau isn't in France?

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        • C Crash

          Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
          Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

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          #150

          @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

          Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
          Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

          Tameifuna was rated the best THP in the Top 14 for the 2015-2016 season. I think the white and blue stripes make him look fatter but he seems fitter than when he was playing for the Chiefs. He has improved his scrummaging dramatically.
          Among exports who do very well in France are Rory Grice and Toby Arnold. Not the greatest names in NZ rugby but they are pretty useful for their respective teams.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

            Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
            Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

            I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

            Piutau isn't in France?

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            Stargazer
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            #151

            @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

            @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

            Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
            Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

            I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

            Piutau isn't in France?

            Charles Piutau plays for Ulster.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

              @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

              Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
              Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

              I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

              Piutau isn't in France?

              Charles Piutau plays for Ulster.

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              Bones
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              #152

              @Stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

              @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

              @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

              Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
              Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

              I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

              Piutau isn't in France?

              Charles Piutau plays for Ulster.

              Yup, in Ireland.

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                pukunui
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                Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

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                  @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                  Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
                  Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

                  Tameifuna was rated the best THP in the Top 14 for the 2015-2016 season. I think the white and blue stripes make him look fatter but he seems fitter than when he was playing for the Chiefs. He has improved his scrummaging dramatically.
                  Among exports who do very well in France are Rory Grice and Toby Arnold. Not the greatest names in NZ rugby but they are pretty useful for their respective teams.

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                  #154

                  @cgrant said in Exodus 2017:

                  @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                  Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
                  Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

                  Tameifuna was rated the best THP in the Top 14 for the 2015-2016 season. I think the white and blue stripes make him look fatter but he seems fitter than when he was playing for the Chiefs. He has improved his scrummaging dramatically.
                  Among exports who do very well in France are Rory Grice and Toby Arnold. Not the greatest names in NZ rugby but they are pretty useful for their respective teams.

                  Tameifuina looked dreadfully unfit when I watched Racing play Glasgow.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                    Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
                    Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

                    I thought Manu used to. Not Hames though.

                    Piutau isn't in France?

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                    Crash
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                    #155

                    @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

                    Piutau isn't in France?

                    I know - that was my point. The four provinces of Ireland with Kiwi coaches obviously have better discipline and structures than French rugby, even at its best.
                    And I take the point abut guys pissing off to play for the $$$ instead of the jersey. But what is the solution? Pay them more money?? Offer a sabbatical?? We have that conundrum already in keeping Cruds, BFA and Izzy around let alone TH props.

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                      @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

                      Piutau isn't in France?

                      I know - that was my point. The four provinces of Ireland with Kiwi coaches obviously have better discipline and structures than French rugby, even at its best.
                      And I take the point abut guys pissing off to play for the $$$ instead of the jersey. But what is the solution? Pay them more money?? Offer a sabbatical?? We have that conundrum already in keeping Cruds, BFA and Izzy around let alone TH props.

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                      Derm McCrum
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                      #156

                      @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                      @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

                      Piutau isn't in France?

                      I know - that was my point. The four provinces of Ireland with Kiwi coaches obviously have better discipline and structures than French rugby, even at its best.
                      And I take the point abut guys pissing off to play for the $$$ instead of the jersey. But what is the solution? Pay them more money?? Offer a sabbatical?? We have that conundrum already in keeping Cruds, BFA and Izzy around let alone TH props.

                      Err...
                      Ulster - Les Kiss, Aus
                      Munster - Rassie Erasmus, SA
                      Leinster - Leo Cullen, Irl
                      Connacht - Pat Lam, NZ/Samoa

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                        @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                        @Bones said in Exodus 2017:

                        Piutau isn't in France?

                        I know - that was my point. The four provinces of Ireland with Kiwi coaches obviously have better discipline and structures than French rugby, even at its best.
                        And I take the point abut guys pissing off to play for the $$$ instead of the jersey. But what is the solution? Pay them more money?? Offer a sabbatical?? We have that conundrum already in keeping Cruds, BFA and Izzy around let alone TH props.

                        Err...
                        Ulster - Les Kiss, Aus
                        Munster - Rassie Erasmus, SA
                        Leinster - Leo Cullen, Irl
                        Connacht - Pat Lam, NZ/Samoa

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                        Crash
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                        #157

                        @Pot-Hale
                        Rob Penney. Jonno Gibbes, Mark Anscombe, Joe Schmidt and Pat Lam have at one time all coached/or are still coaching in the Irish provinces

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                        • C Crash

                          @Pot-Hale
                          Rob Penney. Jonno Gibbes, Mark Anscombe, Joe Schmidt and Pat Lam have at one time all coached/or are still coaching in the Irish provinces

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                          Derm McCrum
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                          @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                          @Pot-Hale
                          Rob Penney. Jonno Gibbes, Mark Anscombe, Joe Schmidt and Pat Lam have at one time all coached/or are still coaching in the Irish provinces

                          I was just pointing out that your initial statement/assumption about the four provinces with Kiwi coaches is not particularly accurate. Schmidt, Lam and Gibbes (now at Clermont rate highly.

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            @cgrant said in Exodus 2017:

                            @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                            Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
                            Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

                            Tameifuna was rated the best THP in the Top 14 for the 2015-2016 season. I think the white and blue stripes make him look fatter but he seems fitter than when he was playing for the Chiefs. He has improved his scrummaging dramatically.
                            Among exports who do very well in France are Rory Grice and Toby Arnold. Not the greatest names in NZ rugby but they are pretty useful for their respective teams.

                            Tameifuina looked dreadfully unfit when I watched Racing play Glasgow.

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                            cgrant
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                            #159

                            @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:

                            @cgrant said in Exodus 2017:

                            @Crash said in Exodus 2017:

                            Piutau has been ripping it up lately, (and wouldn't look out of place in an AB jersey) unlike most of the exports to France who appear to get fat and lazy on the good food, and unholy diet of cheese, bread and wine - Joe Tekori, taumalolo, tuitavake and tameifuna spring to mind.
                            Can either Pauliasi Manu or Kane Hames play both sides?

                            Tameifuna was rated the best THP in the Top 14 for the 2015-2016 season. I think the white and blue stripes make him look fatter but he seems fitter than when he was playing for the Chiefs. He has improved his scrummaging dramatically.
                            Among exports who do very well in France are Rory Grice and Toby Arnold. Not the greatest names in NZ rugby but they are pretty useful for their respective teams.

                            Tameifuina looked dreadfully unfit when I watched Racing play Glasgow.

                            One game cannot be generalized to a whole season. I was talking about the 2015-2016 season when he was named best THP of the Top 14. If he had been unfit, he wouldn't have earned this.

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                              jauzy019
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                              According to french newspaper Midi Olympique today it's 100% certain Ben Smith will leave NZ after the Lions Tour.

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                              • pukunuiP pukunui

                                Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

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                                Rapido
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                                @pukunui said in Exodus 2017:

                                Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

                                I gave a shit when Fourie du Preez was bombing NMS in the RWC semifinal and we were getting pantsed.

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                                • RapidoR Rapido

                                  @pukunui said in Exodus 2017:

                                  Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                  Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

                                  I gave a shit when Fourie du Preez was bombing NMS in the RWC semifinal and we were getting pantsed.

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                                  pukunui
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                                  @Rapido said in Exodus 2017:

                                  @pukunui said in Exodus 2017:

                                  Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                  Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

                                  I gave a shit when Fourie du Preez was bombing NMS in the RWC semifinal and we were getting pantsed.

                                  Yeah if only he was selected instead of NMS.
                                  Imagine what could have been. We might have won the rwc and piutau would have been the longterm 14. Oh wait, we did win it and Piutau was chasing the cash anyway.

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    @pukunui said in Exodus 2017:

                                    Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                    Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

                                    I gave a shit when Fourie du Preez was bombing NMS in the RWC semifinal and we were getting pantsed.

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                                    MN5
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                                    @Rapido said in Exodus 2017:

                                    @pukunui said in Exodus 2017:

                                    Who gives a shit about Piutau? For whatever reason he chose to cash in instead of having any sort of decent All Black career. Not the sort of guy i want playing for the ABs. Would rather guys who are prepared to stay and fight for a jersey even if it costs them millions.
                                    Evans is in the same basket. Could have played 50 tests with all the injuries Carter had after 2007 but chose the cash. He ripped it up in the NH but guys like Donald and Slade who stuck around have RWC winners medals.

                                    I gave a shit when Fourie du Preez was bombing NMS in the RWC semifinal and we were getting pantsed.

                                    This post is utterly ridiculous.

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                                      At the risk of setting off some Aucklanders and Wellingtonians, Dagg's turned out to be a better right winger than NMS or Piutau.

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                                      • UncoU Unco

                                        At the risk of setting off some Aucklanders and Wellingtonians, Dagg's turned out to be a better right winger than NMS or Piutau.

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                                        @Unco said in Exodus 2017:

                                        At the risk of setting off some Aucklanders and Wellingtonians, Dagg's turned out to be a better right winger than NMS or Piutau.

                                        I'd say that Piutau can't wait to leave Ulster. Was watching him at a game the other evening. He looked bored as shit and pissed off by the dross surrounding him.

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                                          At the risk of setting off some Aucklanders and Wellingtonians, Dagg's turned out to be a better right winger than NMS or Piutau.

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                                          @Unco said in Exodus 2017:

                                          At the risk of setting off some Aucklanders and Wellingtonians, Dagg's turned out to be a better right winger than NMS or Piutau.

                                          Yes, NMS has always played awfully for Wellington...

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