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Six Nations 2017

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  • gollumG gollum

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/09/england-chris-robshaw-12-weeks-six-nations

    Chris Robshaw crocked for all of 6 Nations. Reckon we will see Itoje there giving him a really nice warm up for the Lions.

    Englandโ€™s Chris Robshaw ruled out for 12 weeks and will miss Six Nations

    Chris Robshaw has been ruled out of the Six Nations after Harlequins confirmed the England flanker will undergo surgery on his injured shoulder on Monday and will be sidelined for 12 weeks.

    Robshaw aggravated an existing injury to his left shoulder in Harlequinsโ€™ New Yearโ€™s Day defeat by Worcester and a meeting with a specialist confirmed the need for surgery. Robshaw had hoped to play some part in Englandโ€™s defence of their Six Nations title but will now be out of action until April in what comes as a major blow for Eddie Jones. The 30-year-old has emerged as a key lieutenant for England since moving to blindside flanker and relinquishing the captaincy last year and has started 12 of the 13 victories under the Australian โ€“ missing only the end-of-season friendly against Wales.

    โ€œChris is a massive โ€˜glueโ€™ player who does the unseen work,โ€ said Jones, at the two-day training camp in Brighton last week. โ€œHe is a really strong, consistent player and is a massive leader for us in an informal sense.โ€

    Jones has hinted that Maro Itoje, who missed Englandโ€™s autumn campaign with a hand injury, may make the switch to blindside but the head coach has a number of other injury headaches to contend with before beginning the Six Nations at home to France on 4 February.

    Robshawโ€™s club-mate Joe Marler withdrew from Saturdayโ€™s victory over Sale with a calf injury and is likely to undergo a scan while the Vunipola brothers, Mako and Billy, are absent with knee injuries. Their fellow Saracens forward George Kruis is currently recovering from a fractured cheekbone

    James Haskell, meanwhile, lasted all of 35 seconds in his first appearance since June on Sunday before going off with a head injury and must undergo the return-to-play protocols, making an appearance in the Champions Cup against Toulouse on Saturday unlikely.

    Elliot Daly was also withdrawn from Sundayโ€™s win over Leicester with a head injury and Joe Launchbury is nursing a calf strain. Compounding Jonesโ€™s problems at forward, Dylan Hartleyโ€™s six-week ban will leave him short of game time when France arrive at Twickenham.

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    @gollum said in Six Nations 2017:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/09/england-chris-robshaw-12-weeks-six-nations

    Chris Robshaw crocked for all of 6 Nations. Reckon we will see Itoje there giving him a really nice warm up for the Lions.

    Agreed. I think this is actually could work in the Lions favour.
    Itoje at 6 maximises physicality and lineout height in the back five without compromising athleticism.

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      Kruis now confirmed as not being available for any club rugby before the 6N so add him to the 'underdone' list with Hartley.
      Marler's leg strain now diagnosed as a fracture and he won't be available for at least the starting weekend.
      Down to third choice LHP now isn't it?

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        Marler now gone as well. Broken leg.

        In other news England's penalty count expected to fall significantly.

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          Marler now gone as well. Broken leg.

          In other news England's penalty count expected to fall significantly.

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          @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

          Marler now gone as well. Broken leg.

          In other news England's penalty count expected to fall significantly.

          Is it his important leg? You know, the one he uses to drive in at an angle with?

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            Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

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              @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

              Marler now gone as well. Broken leg.

              In other news England's penalty count expected to fall significantly.

              Is it his important leg? You know, the one he uses to drive in at an angle with?

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              @Crucial Being an Englishman I have never seen him drive in at an angle. However I am told it is not his stamping leg if that's any help?

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                Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

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                @Margin_Walker Agreed. I saw Genge do a cameo against Wales in the pre-tour match and thought he's got what it takes. Our cover at prop, although a little green is looking pretty good. Sinckler is doing well, Genge will be a 50 cap+ man if he stays fit (I reckon).

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                  Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

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                  @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                  Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

                  Against the Frogs? I could see a wee bit of provocation going on there in the anticipation of his blood boiling (and his captain getting involved)

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                    Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

                    Against the Frogs? I could see a wee bit of provocation going on there in the anticipation of his blood boiling (and his captain getting involved)

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                    @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                    Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

                    Against the Frogs? I could see a wee bit of provocation going on there in the anticipation of his blood boiling (and his captain getting involved)

                    Definitely a risk, but he's had a run of decent games,where he's making a big impact across the pitch. Seems to thrive on a bit of niggle and has managed not to lamp anyone...... yet. Game against France could actually bring out the best in him.

                    Just can't get too enthused about Mullan or Catt. They are both decent enough, but that's about it.

                    Think he'll end up going with Mullan, with Genge off the bench

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                      @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                      Hopefully Genge gets a run. A bit of a headcase, but I'd take the risk any day over someone military medium like Mullan.

                      Against the Frogs? I could see a wee bit of provocation going on there in the anticipation of his blood boiling (and his captain getting involved)

                      Definitely a risk, but he's had a run of decent games,where he's making a big impact across the pitch. Seems to thrive on a bit of niggle and has managed not to lamp anyone...... yet. Game against France could actually bring out the best in him.

                      Just can't get too enthused about Mullan or Catt. They are both decent enough, but that's about it.

                      Think he'll end up going with Mullan, with Genge off the bench

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                      @Margin_Walker I think you're likely right about how Eddie will go. It might be a step too far even for him to drop Genge right in at the deep end. What you get from Mullan is experience and some world class sulking. The French can't handle sulkers, they get all sympathetic.

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                        @Margin_Walker I think you're likely right about how Eddie will go. It might be a step too far even for him to drop Genge right in at the deep end. What you get from Mullan is experience and some world class sulking. The French can't handle sulkers, they get all sympathetic.

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                        @Catogrande

                        Well with Cole and his sunny demeanour on the other side, it will be pure misery in the front row. Will have to look to Hartley for comic relief.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                          Marler now gone as well. Broken leg.

                          In other news England's penalty count expected to fall significantly.

                          Is it his important leg? You know, the one he uses to drive in at an angle with?

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                          @Crucial Looks like you've been spending time on the global leading site for scrum analysis from across the dutch.

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                            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11781304

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                              @MiketheSnow said in Six Nations 2017:

                              Ireland
                              England
                              Wales

                              Based on the personnel available today (09 January)

                              Oh, oh, you made Ireland favourites!

                              Big no, no. ๐Ÿ™‚

                              Although based on personnel available currently, I don't disagree.

                              The bookies do, though....

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                              @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                              @MiketheSnow said in Six Nations 2017:

                              Ireland
                              England
                              Wales

                              Based on the personnel available today (09 January)

                              Oh, oh, you made Ireland favourites!

                              Big no, no. ๐Ÿ™‚

                              Although based on personnel available currently, I don't disagree.

                              The bookies do, though....

                              These are my opening weekend winners ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                @Crucial Looks like you've been spending time on the global leading site for scrum analysis from across the dutch.

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                                @MajorRage said in Six Nations 2017:

                                @Crucial Looks like you've been spending time on the global leading site for scrum analysis from across the dutch.

                                I only go there for the videos

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                                  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568628/As-long-beat-English-BBC-Six-Nations-advert-banned-unsupportive-England-rugby-team-goes-viral-leaked-online.html#v-3260423288001

                                  Still one of my favourite 6N promos - that was "banned".

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                                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568628/As-long-beat-English-BBC-Six-Nations-advert-banned-unsupportive-England-rugby-team-goes-viral-leaked-online.html#v-3260423288001

                                    Still one of my favourite 6N promos - that was "banned".

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                                    @Pot-Hale It sums up the 6N pretty well and I don't find it offensive at all. I find it really quite funny. The only thing that leaves me a little sour is that you get the feeling that if it was any other of the Home Nations teams there would be a media outcry.

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                                      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568628/As-long-beat-English-BBC-Six-Nations-advert-banned-unsupportive-England-rugby-team-goes-viral-leaked-online.html#v-3260423288001

                                      Still one of my favourite 6N promos - that was "banned".

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                                      @Pot-Hale that's fucking great!

                                      @Catogrande have you been triggered?

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                                        Great piece of marketing. Real rugby spirit about it. Only an utter twat would find that offensive.

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                                          @Pot-Hale It sums up the 6N pretty well and I don't find it offensive at all. I find it really quite funny. The only thing that leaves me a little sour is that you get the feeling that if it was any other of the Home Nations teams there would be a media outcry.

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                                          @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                                          @Pot-Hale It sums up the 6N pretty well and I don't find it offensive at all. I find it really quite funny. The only thing that leaves me a little sour is that you get the feeling that if it was any other of the Home Nations teams there would be a media outcry.

                                          I agree Cato. There probably would be. I have to say my answer has always been Wales or France. Probably because I spent my childhood years trudging out of Lansdowne Road after being beaten by them - again!

                                          England remain my favourite team for Ireland to play against and meet fans from. John Pullin is still highly regarded by fans of my generation - with his team's and the RFU's stance on the 1973 Five Nations tourney. It's a shame that the proper match couldn't be set up for the opening of the new Lansdowne Road.

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