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Six Nations 2017

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    Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

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      Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

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      @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

      Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

      Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

      Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

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        @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

        Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

        Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

        Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

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        @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

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          @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

          Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

          Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

          Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

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          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

          Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

          Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

          Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

          Yeah, it backfired picking Henderson ahead of Ryan IMO. Also, I'd be tempted to start VDF. But Schmidt has to do something about the attack.

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            @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

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            @Kiwidom said in Six Nations 2017:

            @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

            If you had left the last bit of your sentence out, I might have agreed with you. ๐Ÿ™‚

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              @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

              @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

              Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

              Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

              Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

              Yeah, it backfired picking Henderson ahead of Ryan IMO. Also, I'd be tempted to start VDF. But Schmidt has to do something about the attack.

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              @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

              @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

              @Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:

              Great game to watch. Scotland had no scrum. Ireland quite often had no line out. Ireland went back to what they do best which is pick 'n' go and one-off-the-ruck, but Hogg has more attacking class in his frame than the Irish backs combined. He didn't get enough ball IMHO, owned Keith Earls and the like every time he had the ball in his hands. He has some faults to his game, but Hogg can definitely trouble the ABs in a Lions jersey.

              Yep. Earls is just blind on his defence. Ireland need O'Mahony back as a lineout option. And more back three options.

              Vern Cotter grinning from ear to ear in putting one over his old mucker, Schmidt.

              Yeah, it backfired picking Henderson ahead of Ryan IMO. Also, I'd be tempted to start VDF. But Schmidt has to do something about the attack.

              Ryan was injured so didn't start. He's available for next week. I thought O'Brien had a good game. I'd be tempted to start with O'Mahony and have Stander on the bench. We need better lineout options - we were read too easily. Easterby has some work to do.

              The attack is all over the place. Jackson is good at the one-off stuff but he doesn't lead the line as well as Sexton, or Carbery, possibly.

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                @Kiwidom said in Six Nations 2017:

                @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

                If you had left the last bit of your sentence out, I might have agreed with you. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                @Kiwidom said in Six Nations 2017:

                @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

                If you had left the last bit of your sentence out, I might have agreed with you. ๐Ÿ™‚

                Think Fekitoas was definitely worse, but the shrieking if it had been an AB doing the one today would've been crazy. As it was all the commentators seemed to agree it was borderline but probably only a penalty.

                I'm sure if it was Fekitoa it would've been worthy of a 5 year ban.

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                  That's a pretty massive loose trio for England.

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                    Dumb by May. I really can't understand why players are trying to lift the leg that high these days, just idiotic.

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                      @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Kiwidom said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

                      If you had left the last bit of your sentence out, I might have agreed with you. ๐Ÿ™‚

                      Think Fekitoas was definitely worse, but the shrieking if it had been an AB doing the one today would've been crazy. As it was all the commentators seemed to agree it was borderline but probably only a penalty.

                      I'm sure if it was Fekitoa it would've been worthy of a 5 year ban.

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                      @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Kiwidom said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Pot-Hale Under the new directives Bowes high tackle at the end should have been a yellow,should it not? It was the same as Fekitoa last November. If an all black had have made that high tackle today, it would have been red

                      If you had left the last bit of your sentence out, I might have agreed with you. ๐Ÿ™‚

                      Think Fekitoas was definitely worse, but the shrieking if it had been an AB doing the one today would've been crazy. As it was all the commentators seemed to agree it was borderline but probably only a penalty.

                      I'm sure if it was Fekitoa it would've been worthy of a 5 year ban.

                      By the letter of the new laws that should have been a YC
                      Swinging arm high on the arm with high risk of riding up.
                      However for consistency during the game there was a lot of reluctance to call anything high that was debatable

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                        Have to say, Picamoles is a bloody good player. Would take him in the ABs if Read was injured.

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                          Itoje is no Kaino though. I'm sick of hearing about how 'athletic' he is. How about smashing tackles and strong ball carrying instead?

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                            Itoje is no Kaino though. I'm sick of hearing about how 'athletic' he is. How about smashing tackles and strong ball carrying instead?

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                            @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                            Itoje is no Kaino though. I'm sick of hearing about how 'athletic' he is. How about smashing tackles and strong ball carrying instead?

                            I'm picking him to be the next yellow, seen about 3 at shoulder height that have slipped up so far, all in moments where play has been called up or refocused just prior.

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                              Itoje very lucky Gardner focussed on the forward pass there. That was a clumsy high contact. I watched him in a game the other week and he really struggled with getting low instinctively.

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                                Gardiner has been very good...Apart from that last penalty.

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                                  Compared to the last game this is a big yawn. Neither side showing much attacking prowess. The only excitement coming from the odd spilled ball break.

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                                    Daley making up for his red card against Argies. Just about everything he's done so far has been quality.

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                                      Daley making up for his red card against Argies. Just about everything he's done so far has been quality.

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                                      @Disgusted-of-TW said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      Daley making up for his red card against Argies. Just about everything he's done so far has been quality.

                                      That kick off his left foot for touch from broken play was top class.

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                                        Impromptu street parties and bands breaking out in Murrayfield Edinburgh with both sets of fans singing their lungs out. Bars just mad.

                                        Six Nations bliss.

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                                          This is the best France have played at Twickenham in quite some time.

                                          England finding out about their strength in depth.

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