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Six Nations 2017

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Some interesting comments re: England here. It seems like there is conflicting schools of thought. Big is best, but they were outsized and outpowered on the weekend.

    And expansive play, when they continuously kicked the ball away on the weekend. Like, over and over. Are they getting caught in two minds? Despite their very impressive 12 months (and it has been impressive) is there still a divide between Eddie's way and the England way?

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    @mariner4life take a while to get rid of the more natural instincts about how they play the game.

    Even under Lancaster they looked like they wanted to play an expansive game, but when they struggled to execute so always fell back to the tried and tested.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @Kiwidom If you look at the heralded English back rows you will invariably see balance. The Richards, Winterbottom, Teague era, the Hill, Back, Dallaglio era. But since then we have had a series of big munters. All good players in their own right, but where is the balance?

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      @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

      @Kiwidom If you look at the heralded English back rows you will invariably see balance. The Richards, Winterbottom, Teague era, the Hill, Back, Dallaglio era. But since then we have had a series of big munters. All good players in their own right, but where is the balance?

      Pfft. Jeffrey/Calder/White LAUGHED at their efforts back in the glory days of 1990.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @mariner4life take a while to get rid of the more natural instincts about how they play the game.

        Even under Lancaster they looked like they wanted to play an expansive game, but when they struggled to execute so always fell back to the tried and tested.

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        @taniwharugby said in Six Nations 2017:

        @mariner4life take a while to get rid of the more natural instincts about how they play the game.

        Even under Lancaster they looked like they wanted to play an expansive game, but when they struggled to execute so always fell back to the tried and tested.

        Which comes back to how they play the majority of their rugby and how you play as a kid growing up through the game.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Catogrande woked last June where you just threw weight at the breakdown, and the Wallabies could do fuck all about it

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          @mariner4life said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Catogrande woked last June where you just threw weight at the breakdown, and the Wallabies could do fuck all about it

          Point.

          And how did it go in the World Cup?

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            http://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/829630509701533697

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              Pretty much as expected, with some question marks over how fit Wood and Haskell are in the bench. May have been tempted to start with the latter even if he only lasted a half.

              Nice to see Nowell back involved.

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                Pretty much as expected, with some question marks over how fit Wood and Haskell are in the bench. May have been tempted to start with the latter even if he only lasted a half.

                Nice to see Nowell back involved.

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                @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                Pretty much as expected, with some question marks over how fit Wood and Haskell are in the bench. May have been tempted to start with the latter even if he only lasted a half.

                Nice to see Nowell back involved.

                Not sure if the Hughes injury concern was a smokescreen or if he is also not fully fit. For all the talk of depth there must be a big temptation to play some guys who aren't 100%

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                  Pretty much as expected, with some question marks over how fit Wood and Haskell are in the bench. May have been tempted to start with the latter even if he only lasted a half.

                  Nice to see Nowell back involved.

                  Not sure if the Hughes injury concern was a smokescreen or if he is also not fully fit. For all the talk of depth there must be a big temptation to play some guys who aren't 100%

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                  @Crucial

                  Well I just hope it works out better than the last time we played in Cardiff with a makeshift back row...

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                    @Crucial

                    Well I just hope it works out better than the last time we played in Cardiff with a makeshift back row...

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                    @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Crucial

                    Well I just hope it works out better than the last time we played in Cardiff with a makeshift back row...

                    It will. You've all been 'painting pictures' apparently, different pictures with different paint, but you've painted them yourselves.

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                      #285

                      Wales:

                      15: Leigh Halfpenny (RC Toulon)
                      14: George North (Northampton)
                      13: Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
                      12: Scott Williams (Scarlets)
                      11: Liam Williams (Scarlets)

                      10: Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
                      9: Rhys Webb (Ospreys)

                      1: Rob Evans (Scarlets)
                      2: Ken Owens (Scarlets)
                      3: Tomas Francis (Exeter)
                      4: Jake Ball (Scarlets)
                      5: Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, capt)
                      6: Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues)
                      7: Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
                      8: Ross Moriarty (Gloucester)

                      Reserves:
                      16: Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
                      17: Nicky Smith (Ospreys)
                      18: Samson Lee (Scarlets)
                      19: Cory Hill (Newport Gwent Dragons)
                      20: Taulupe Faletau (Bath)
                      21: Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                      22: Sam Davies (Ospreys)
                      23: Jamie Roberts (Harlequins)

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                        Wales' chances exponentially increased when they didn't elect Cuthbert. Or so every comment from Welsh fans would have you believe.

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                          Howley bottled it.

                          Should have started with

                          Biggar, Halfpenny, J Davies, S Williams, L Williams. S Davies, Webb

                          North's not fit.

                          Hopefully we'll see the above with G Davies coming on at some stage in the match.

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                            England still favourites by 7-10

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                              Theres just something about this game that makes me think the Taffs are going to give it a real go ... and potentially come away with a victory.

                              I have no doubt that the Poms are the better team ... but the 6N is great like that, see Paddies vs Jocks for an example.

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                                Ireland team to play Italy

                                1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                Italy

                                1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

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                                  Ireland team to play Italy

                                  1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                  Italy

                                  1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                  Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

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                                  @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                  Ireland team to play Italy

                                  1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                  Italy

                                  1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                  Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

                                  So do I, me an Mrs DoTS are going to Stadio Olimpico.

                                  But I can honestly say, I almost wouldn't care - Rome is seriously impressive (I suspect I am not the first person in history to notice this)

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                                    @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                    Ireland team to play Italy

                                    1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                    Italy

                                    1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                    Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

                                    So do I, me an Mrs DoTS are going to Stadio Olimpico.

                                    But I can honestly say, I almost wouldn't care - Rome is seriously impressive (I suspect I am not the first person in history to notice this)

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                                    @Disgusted-of-TW first visit there last year to watch the All Blacks. Can't wait to go back.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      Howley bottled it.

                                      Should have started with

                                      Biggar, Halfpenny, J Davies, S Williams, L Williams. S Davies, Webb

                                      North's not fit.

                                      Hopefully we'll see the above with G Davies coming on at some stage in the match.

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      Howley bottled it.

                                      Should have started with

                                      Biggar, Halfpenny, J Davies, S Williams, L Williams. S Davies, Webb

                                      North's not fit.

                                      Hopefully we'll see the above with G Davies coming on at some stage in the match.

                                      But North will hit the deck for a HIA and someone will cop the blame and get carded. It's a plan.

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                                        @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        Ireland team to play Italy

                                        1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                        Italy

                                        1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                        Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

                                        So do I, me an Mrs DoTS are going to Stadio Olimpico.

                                        But I can honestly say, I almost wouldn't care - Rome is seriously impressive (I suspect I am not the first person in history to notice this)

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                                        @Disgusted-of-TW said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        Ireland team to play Italy

                                        1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                        Italy

                                        1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                        Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

                                        So do I, me an Mrs DoTS are going to Stadio Olimpico.

                                        But I can honestly say, I almost wouldn't care - Rome is seriously impressive (I suspect I am not the first person in history to notice this)

                                        Mrs DoTW, of course! Blilmey, I would have been in trouble if I'd left her at home in favour of that Mrs DoTS trollop...

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                                          @Disgusted-of-TW said in Six Nations 2017:

                                          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                          Ireland team to play Italy

                                          1. Not Johnny Sexton.

                                          Italy

                                          1. Yep Parisse is still fit.

                                          Hope the bus makes it to the stadium this time.

                                          So do I, me an Mrs DoTS are going to Stadio Olimpico.

                                          But I can honestly say, I almost wouldn't care - Rome is seriously impressive (I suspect I am not the first person in history to notice this)

                                          Mrs DoTW, of course! Blilmey, I would have been in trouble if I'd left her at home in favour of that Mrs DoTS trollop...

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                                          Bones
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                                          @Disgusted-of-TW Disgusted of Tonbridge South?

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