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    Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

    Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

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      Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

      Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

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      @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

      Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

      Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

      Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

      Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

        Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

        Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

        Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

        Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

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        @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

        @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

        Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

        Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

        Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

        Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

        You probably don't know he started playing NPC with the Mako$? He's gone back to where he started his NPC rugby.

        "You lot down south", who's that? Everyone south of Taupo?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

          Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

          Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

          Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

          You probably don't know he started playing NPC with the Mako$? He's gone back to where he started his NPC rugby.

          "You lot down south", who's that? Everyone south of Taupo?

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          @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

          Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

          Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

          Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

          You probably don't know he started playing NPC with the Mako$? He's gone back to where he started his NPC rugby.

          "You lot down south", who's that? Everyone south of Taupo?

          I did know that. I also know he has been a CM rep since U14s. Where did he learn to play to NPC standard? Which province invested in coaching him to that level?

          South of Taupo? Nah, it's not until you cross Cook Strait that the definition of uncle and grandad gets blurred.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

            Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

            Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

            Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

            You probably don't know he started playing NPC with the Mako$? He's gone back to where he started his NPC rugby.

            "You lot down south", who's that? Everyone south of Taupo?

            I did know that. I also know he has been a CM rep since U14s. Where did he learn to play to NPC standard? Which province invested in coaching him to that level?

            South of Taupo? Nah, it's not until you cross Cook Strait that the definition of uncle and grandad gets blurred.

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            @Crucial Pfew, then that "you lot down South" doesn't apply to me then. Got me confused there. I've only been to the South Island twice.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

              @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

              @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

              Jordan Taufua will be playing Mitre 10 Cup for the Mako$ again this year.

              Source: a comment (not a post) by the Mako$ on their own FB page; not further announced yet.

              Poaching bastards! Peas in a pod you lot down south.

              Probably better for family. That's the problem when your good players have to spend their money making part of the year in another part of the country. Wish the Chiefs or Blues had grabbed him a few years back instead of those filthy Cantabs

              You probably don't know he started playing NPC with the Mako$? He's gone back to where he started his NPC rugby.

              "You lot down south", who's that? Everyone south of Taupo?

              I did know that. I also know he has been a CM rep since U14s. Where did he learn to play to NPC standard? Which province invested in coaching him to that level?

              South of Taupo? Nah, it's not until you cross Cook Strait that the definition of uncle and grandad gets blurred.

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              @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

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                @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

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                @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

                You are fucken joking! Probably well up there in contention for player of the NPC last season. Immense for CM.

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                  @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                  @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

                  You are fucken joking! Probably well up there in contention for player of the NPC last season. Immense for CM.

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                  @Crucial said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                  @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                  @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

                  You are fucken joking! Probably well up there in contention for player of the NPC last season. Immense for CM.

                  Sorry I was talking more about super rugby level.

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                    @Crucial Pfew, then that "you lot down South" doesn't apply to me then. Got me confused there. I've only been to the South Island twice.

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                    @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                    @Crucial Pfew, then that "you lot down South" doesn't apply to me then. Got me confused there. I've only been to the South Island twice.

                    TBF Star, some of your posting on things red n black suggest you may have some uncle/grandad confusion going on in your ancestry line. 😉

                    So when is Taufua going to convert to openside is the more important point here rather than discussing which two bit artificially created province he's going to play for.

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                      @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                      @Crucial Pfew, then that "you lot down South" doesn't apply to me then. Got me confused there. I've only been to the South Island twice.

                      TBF Star, some of your posting on things red n black suggest you may have some uncle/grandad confusion going on in your ancestry line. 😉

                      So when is Taufua going to convert to openside is the more important point here rather than discussing which two bit artificially created province he's going to play for.

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                      @Nepia You mean when's he going to convert to hooker? His playing style reminds me of a young Kev.

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

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                        @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                        @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

                        One of his best games in recent times was against England.

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                          @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                          @Crucial They can have him he's nothing special. Good against rubbish opposition but not much else after that.

                          One of his best games in recent times was against England.

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                          @Frye And one of his worst was against the Blues. Had a mare.

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                            @Frye And one of his worst was against the Blues. Had a mare.

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                            @KiwiMurph Yes in a game where he needed to make a statement to enhance his ABs chances against guys ahead of him in the pecking order. Luatua and Kaino took him to school that night.

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                              @KiwiMurph Yes in a game where he needed to make a statement to enhance his ABs chances against guys ahead of him in the pecking order. Luatua and Kaino took him to school that night.

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                              @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                              @KiwiMurph Yes in a game where he needed to make a statement to enhance his ABs chances against guys ahead of him in the pecking order. Luatua and Kaino took him to school that night.

                              Meh. Everyone has off games occasionally.

                              Your original statement is still wrong.

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                                I don't think anyone seriously thinks he would make the ABs, he isn't quite built for test rugby in his best positions skill wise.
                                He is an outstanding NPC level player (which is what we were talking about i.e. move back to Mako$) but if you want to focus on Super level I think he certainly holds his own at that level.
                                There were Saders games last year where he was MOTM. There were games where he was by far the player that kept them in it.
                                To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

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                                  I don't think anyone seriously thinks he would make the ABs, he isn't quite built for test rugby in his best positions skill wise.
                                  He is an outstanding NPC level player (which is what we were talking about i.e. move back to Mako$) but if you want to focus on Super level I think he certainly holds his own at that level.
                                  There were Saders games last year where he was MOTM. There were games where he was by far the player that kept them in it.
                                  To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

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                                  @Crucial

                                  To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                  Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

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                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/89477308/tasman-favourite-taufua-will-be-back-in-a-Mako$-jersey-for-2017-npc-season

                                    😞

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                                      @Crucial

                                      To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                      Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

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                                      @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                      @Crucial

                                      To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                      Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

                                      Taufua was easily the best Crusaders' forward in 2015, when the ABs Crusaders forwards weren't trying. At times he was the only one who was. He was close to the best in 2016. His height is a major problem playing 6 or 8 at international level. Otherwise your assessment is terrible.

                                      A great signing by the Mako$ - hard to get anyone better.

                                      One of the best Super rugby players - especially when you take into account how many are going to be playing a bit half-hearted to save themselves for the Lions.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        @Crucial

                                        To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                        Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

                                        Taufua was easily the best Crusaders' forward in 2015, when the ABs Crusaders forwards weren't trying. At times he was the only one who was. He was close to the best in 2016. His height is a major problem playing 6 or 8 at international level. Otherwise your assessment is terrible.

                                        A great signing by the Mako$ - hard to get anyone better.

                                        One of the best Super rugby players - especially when you take into account how many are going to be playing a bit half-hearted to save themselves for the Lions.

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                                        @Chris-B. said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        @Crucial

                                        To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                        Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

                                        Taufua was easily the best Crusaders' forward in 2015, when the ABs Crusaders forwards weren't trying. At times he was the only one who was. He was close to the best in 2016. His height is a major problem playing 6 or 8 at international level. Otherwise your assessment is terrible.

                                        A great signing by the Mako$ - hard to get anyone better.

                                        One of the best Super rugby players - especially when you take into account how many are going to be playing a bit half-hearted to save themselves for the Lions.

                                        I'm not even sure I agree with his height being a problem. According to his Counties profile, Taufua is 1.89cm, according to his Crusaders profile 1.87cm. Compare that with Liam Messam, who's 190cm according to his All Blacks and Chiefs profile. Or Victor Vito, who's 1.92cm according to his All Blacks profile. Is one, or three, centimetres such a big difference?

                                        What I would like the AB coaches to do, is invite a player like Taufua to be tested in the AB environment. Let him train with the ABs and see how he goes. Maybe take him on the EOYT. They have already tried Franklin and Elliott Dixon, who have been far from convincing. Squire not much better. Does a 6 or 8 really have to be 1.96cm tall like Kaino? Does it have to be a player of the same mould? Or can a player bring something else that make him an excellent 6, or 8? If he again has a good season, I think Taufua deserves an opportunity (and no, not just him; Akira Ioane, if he has grown up in the mean time, as well.)

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Chris-B. said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          @African-Monkey said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          @Crucial

                                          To state'Mako$ can have him he's nothing special' is plainly an exaggeration to make a point.

                                          Sorry a bit late here but as I said earlier my reference was more towards the Super Rugby side of things instead of the Mitre 10 cup where a lot of players do dominate. Blind freddie could tell you that Taufua dominates at that level but I'm talking about Super Rugby level here where yes he stands out against average to weaker opposition but tends to struggle against stronger opposition

                                          Taufua was easily the best Crusaders' forward in 2015, when the ABs Crusaders forwards weren't trying. At times he was the only one who was. He was close to the best in 2016. His height is a major problem playing 6 or 8 at international level. Otherwise your assessment is terrible.

                                          A great signing by the Mako$ - hard to get anyone better.

                                          One of the best Super rugby players - especially when you take into account how many are going to be playing a bit half-hearted to save themselves for the Lions.

                                          I'm not even sure I agree with his height being a problem. According to his Counties profile, Taufua is 1.89cm, according to his Crusaders profile 1.87cm. Compare that with Liam Messam, who's 190cm according to his All Blacks and Chiefs profile. Or Victor Vito, who's 1.92cm according to his All Blacks profile. Is one, or three, centimetres such a big difference?

                                          What I would like the AB coaches to do, is invite a player like Taufua to be tested in the AB environment. Let him train with the ABs and see how he goes. Maybe take him on the EOYT. They have already tried Franklin and Elliott Dixon, who have been far from convincing. Squire not much better. Does a 6 or 8 really have to be 1.96cm tall like Kaino? Does it have to be a player of the same mould? Or can a player bring something else that make him an excellent 6, or 8? If he again has a good season, I think Taufua deserves an opportunity (and no, not just him; Akira Ioane, if he has grown up in the mean time, as well.)

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                                          @Stargazer said in 2016 Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          I'm not even sure I agree with his height being a problem. According to his Counties profile

                                          does it include his hair?

                                          How many units of @mn5 is it?

                                          and, more importantly, has Jegga had breakfast with him?

                                          I'm septical of all of the reported heights.

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