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Chiefs vs Hurricanes

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  • BlackeyeB Offline
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    Blackeye
    wrote on last edited by
    #67

    Fatialofa = deservered
    the other hurricane head high = should have been yellow
    bird = yellow -late, no arms
    savea = no idea didn't see a replay that showed it

    how long before dane coles does something he'll regret my guess is 15 mins into the second half

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    • chimoausC chimoaus

      @hydro11 said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

      @chimoaus said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

      Bird should have got a card given the precedent set.

      No doubt. Fatialofa gets one for no arms and then a no arm tackle off the ball isn't even a penalty. Absolute joke.

      I'm assuming if the ref didn't see it the call is the TMO? Can the on field ref overule the TMO from the replay?

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      #68

      @chimoaus said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

      @hydro11 said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

      @chimoaus said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

      Bird should have got a card given the precedent set.

      No doubt. Fatialofa gets one for no arms and then a no arm tackle off the ball isn't even a penalty. Absolute joke.

      I'm assuming if the ref didn't see it the call is the TMO? Can the on field ref overule the TMO from the replay?

      Ref said the TMO saw it and said it was nothing. Which is a joke. The TMO should have seen the ruling on the Fatialofa incident and reffed it consistently.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90183024/tongan-bear-loni-uhila-mark-abbott-to-start-for-hurricanes-against-chiefs

        Milner-Skudder, Vince Aso, Matt Proctor, Ngani Laumape, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara (vc), Reed Prinsep, Ardie Savea, Brad Shields, Michael Fatialofa, Mark Abbott, Jeffery To'omaga-Allen, Dane Coles (c), Loni Uhila

        Reserves: Ricky Riccitelli, Chris Eves, Ben May, James Blackwell, Callum Gibbins, Chris Smylie, Otere Black, Jordie Barrett.

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        Winger
        wrote on last edited by
        #69

        This rain is ruining the game unfortunately. Its a bit like the fog final its that bad

        And I don't mind yellow cards. But how about consistency. Or do they only apply to one side. Dirt by the Chiefs is allowed it seems whereas slipping by Canes players due to the rain isn't

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        • BlackeyeB Blackeye

          Fatialofa = deservered
          the other hurricane head high = should have been yellow
          bird = yellow -late, no arms
          savea = no idea didn't see a replay that showed it

          how long before dane coles does something he'll regret my guess is 15 mins into the second half

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          hydro11
          wrote on last edited by
          #70

          @Blackeye said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

          Fatialofa = deservered
          the other hurricane head high = should have been yellow
          bird = yellow -late, no arms
          savea = no idea didn't see a replay that showed it

          how long before dane coles does something he'll regret my guess is 15 mins into the second half

          There is no way that other head high was a yellow. If that was a yellow then every single high tackle is a yellow.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Yeah it seems crazy that the TMO couldnt interject on the bird shoulder.

            TKB absolutely dominating Perenara so far. I must say DMac has been very impressive in the wet so far.

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            No Quarter
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            #71

            @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

            Yeah it seems crazy that the TMO couldnt interject on the bird shoulder.

            TKB absolutely dominating Perenara so far. I must say DMac has been very impressive in the wet so far.

            TKB has been very impressive. We are pretty spoilt at HB at the moment.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              That's some hometown bullshit right there.

              Jackson isn't reffing.

              Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

              I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

              Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

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              Crucial
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              #72

              @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

              That's some hometown bullshit right there.

              Jackson isn't reffing.

              Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

              I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

              Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

              Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
              Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
              Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

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              • BlackeyeB Offline
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                Blackeye
                wrote on last edited by
                #73

                Oh the off the ball play will be leaving Highlanders very impressed

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                • H hydro11

                  @Blackeye said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                  Fatialofa = deservered
                  the other hurricane head high = should have been yellow
                  bird = yellow -late, no arms
                  savea = no idea didn't see a replay that showed it

                  how long before dane coles does something he'll regret my guess is 15 mins into the second half

                  There is no way that other head high was a yellow. If that was a yellow then every single high tackle is a yellow.

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                  Blackeye
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #74

                  @hydro11
                  well i dont follow world rugby rules to a tee but i thought (other than they are idiots) that it was now the way to ref

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                    @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                    @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                    @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                    @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                    That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                    Jackson isn't reffing.

                    Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                    I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                    Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                    Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                    Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                    Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

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                    Winger
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #75

                    @Crucial

                    Bird was clearly a yellow.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                      Jackson isn't reffing.

                      Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                      I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                      Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                      Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                      Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                      Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

                      No QuarterN Online
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                      No Quarter
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #76

                      @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                      That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                      Jackson isn't reffing.

                      Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                      I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                      Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                      Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                      Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                      Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

                      Sorry Crucial but that's nonsense. Bird's shoulder charge was late when the player was not bracing for impact and had the potential to break ribs. TJP was down for some time afterwards. 100% the wrong call from the ref.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                        Jackson isn't reffing.

                        Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                        I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                        Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                        Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                        Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                        Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

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                        hydro11
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                        #77

                        @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                        That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                        Jackson isn't reffing.

                        Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                        I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                        Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                        Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                        Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                        Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

                        I'm pretty sure danger isn't in the laws. A no arms tackle is just a yellow, especially if late.

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                          Jackson isn't reffing.

                          Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                          I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                          Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                          Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                          Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                          Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

                          Sorry Crucial but that's nonsense. Bird's shoulder charge was late when the player was not bracing for impact and had the potential to break ribs. TJP was down for some time afterwards. 100% the wrong call from the ref.

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                          Winger
                          wrote on last edited by Winger
                          #78

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                          That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                          Jackson isn't reffing.

                          Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                          I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                          Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                          I assume maybe crucial is taking the piss

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                            @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                            @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                            @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                            @No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                            That's some hometown bullshit right there.

                            Jackson isn't reffing.

                            Your thoughts on the late shoulder charge from Bird on TJP?

                            I actually missed it. Getting ready for work. Will rewind in a moment

                            Fair enough. Funny thing is the ref saw it and his response was to give both captains a "talking too" about the niggle. Crazy referring after the YCs he'd been dishing out.

                            Fatialofa's one was an aggressive charge with no arms in the direction of the head. It carried high danger and affected play.
                            Bird's one was an after the ball shoulder check that carried little danger and had no effect on play.
                            Should have at least been a penalty and a strong warning to cut out the niggle. For consistency though I wouldn't argue that a YC was unwarranted.

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                            Blackeye
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #79

                            @Crucial
                            That's like saying Luatua had no intent and it was TNW that actually ran into his arm

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                              Bones
                              wrote on last edited by Bones
                              #80

                              This ref is a dick eh? Did he even say what he carded Savea for? That straight after a penalty for collapsing the maul where he didn't even cite a number. Penalising the canes and while they wait to hear what it's for shoos them away and then says it once they're out of earshot. Then penalises TJP for sealing off, ignoring ALB diving at the man on the ground.

                              He's out of his depth.

                              Edit: i wouldn't be complaining about the Bird non yellow after that shocker high tackle by Prinsep.

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                @Crucial

                                Bird was clearly a yellow.

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                                Crucial
                                wrote on last edited by Crucial
                                #81

                                @Winger said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                @Crucial

                                Bird was clearly a yellow.

                                Your reasons? I concede that it would be a yellow for consistency but remove everything else in the game and view it as an isolated incident and you'd think it was a harsh call if yellow (especially if a yellow jersey worn by the culprit)

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Winger said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                  @Crucial

                                  Bird was clearly a yellow.

                                  Your reasons? I concede that it would be a yellow for consistency but remove everything else in the game and view it as an isolated incident and you'd think it was a harsh call if yellow (especially if a yellow jersey worn by the culprit)

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                                  Blackeye
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #82

                                  @Crucial
                                  Nah, late ball was well kicked, no arms - not what i'd actually call rugby

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Winger said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                    @Crucial

                                    Bird was clearly a yellow.

                                    Your reasons? I concede that it would be a yellow for consistency but remove everything else in the game and view it as an isolated incident and you'd think it was a harsh call if yellow (especially if a yellow jersey worn by the culprit)

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                                    No Quarter
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #83

                                    @Crucial said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                    @Winger said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                    @Crucial

                                    Bird was clearly a yellow.

                                    Your reasons? I concede that it would be a yellow for consistency but remove everything else in the game and view it as an isolated incident and you'd think it was a harsh call if yellow (especially if a yellow jersey worn by the culprit)

                                    Since when is a shoulder charge not a YC?

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Winger said in Chiefs vs Hurricanes:

                                      @Crucial

                                      Bird was clearly a yellow.

                                      Your reasons? I concede that it would be a yellow for consistency but remove everything else in the game and view it as an isolated incident and you'd think it was a harsh call if yellow (especially if a yellow jersey worn by the culprit)

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                                      Winger
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #84

                                      @Crucial

                                      It was dirty play. But for the reason given below

                                      Hitting a player well after the ball in this way = at least a yellow

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                                        hydro11
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #85

                                        Shoulder charge was a yellow before the new rules were brought into effect.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #86

                                          Oh and Fatialofa, what the actual fuck. How do you make a decision to do something so foreign? He was set for a tackle and had to make a huge effort to change to jumping shoulder charge!

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