Six Nations 2017
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@Hooroo said in Six Nations 2017:
Funny how it is up to Ireland to stop the role again.
I hope England get it. Something to strive for again
After reading Stephen Jones latest jizzfest ( fresh from winning Rugby writer of the year yet again, who is he against ? Chris Rattue ? ) I'll be remembering that I'm almost as Irish as I am Scottish and embracing the heritage like an alcoholic does on St Paddys day.
Smash those fucken poms!!!!!
Stephen Jones is just playing it smart. He says everything the English like to hear and winds up other nations. He knows who his audience is so he is kissing English ass while at the same time being controversial when it comes to other countries. The English are used to seeing the opposite so Jones has carved out a niche for himself there.
I don't think he dislikes other nations but knows how to push certain buttons so he is talked about more. And let's face it, it has worked.
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Be great if England took the record, I'll be cheering for them. Remarkable effort given the fallout from the RWC - have to give Eddie some credit there, he knows what he's doing at the top level.
I could give 0 fucks if there are people that take pleasure from the fact the ABs record will be overtaken.
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Be great if England took the record, I'll be cheering for them. Remarkable effort given the fallout from the RWC - have to give Eddie some credit there, he knows what he's doing at the top level.
I could give 0 fucks if there are people that take pleasure from the fact the ABs record will be overtaken.
@No-Quarter said in Six Nations 2017:
Be great if England took the record, I'll be cheering for them. Remarkable effort given the fallout from the RWC - have to give Eddie some credit there, he knows what he's doing at the top level.
I could give 0 fucks if there are people that take pleasure from the fact the ABs record will be overtaken.
Totally agree. Records are there to be broken and if England do manage it then that record will be there to be broken. Whilst it is a nice record for any side to have, each individual match is ore important - you always target the next match. Always.
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It's not England's fault that the international schedule has prevented them from playing the All Blacks - the implication being they wouldn't have won 18 in a row had such a fixture existed. They've won against every team that has taken the field and in doing so have an excellent opportunity to set a new Tier One record and simultaneously be the first to win successive 6N Grand Slams. Good luck to them.
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It's not England's fault that the international schedule has prevented them from playing the All Blacks - the implication being they wouldn't have won 18 in a row had such a fixture existed. They've won against every team that has taken the field and in doing so have an excellent opportunity to set a new Tier One record and simultaneously be the first to win successive 6N Grand Slams. Good luck to them.
@antipodean said in Six Nations 2017:
It's not England's fault that the international schedule has prevented them from playing the All Blacks - the implication being they wouldn't have won 18 in a row had such a fixture existed. They've won against every team that has taken the field and in doing so have an excellent opportunity to set a new Tier One record and simultaneously be the first to win successive 6N Grand Slams. Good luck to them.
Never happened in the 6 nations, but has happened in the 5 nations five times:
Back-to-back Grand Slam summary:
England Three times: 1913 & 1914; 1923 & 1924; 1991 & 1992.
Wales Once: 1908 & 1909.
France Once: 1997 &1998.How many nations have won back-to-back Grand Slams in the Five & Six Nations?
FWIW I hope, if England win against Ireland, they kick on to knock Cyprus off the top spot so its at least held by a proper rugby nation (no offence Mouflons).
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Still in a bit of a daze after this weekend's matches.
Was not expecting us to beat Ireland and England's demolition of Scotland was extraordinary considering the performances leading up to it.
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@Margin_Walker @profitius
I suppose it's that you just don't like having your (good) name besmirched. If some idiot is spreading shit about you (and usually he lumps NZ rugby, public, fans, team into one so he can have a single target to throw shit at) some idiot out there is believing it.How many Pomgolians "know" for a fact that NZers are dirty, unethical, precious, manipulative, poaching thugs because they read it in 'The Times'?
If we only reach you guys to give the counter to the poaching argument (the rest of it is pretty accurate
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@antipodean said in Six Nations 2017:
It's not England's fault that the international schedule has prevented them from playing the All Blacks - the implication being they wouldn't have won 18 in a row had such a fixture existed. They've won against every team that has taken the field and in doing so have an excellent opportunity to set a new Tier One record and simultaneously be the first to win successive 6N Grand Slams. Good luck to them.
Never happened in the 6 nations, but has happened in the 5 nations five times:
Back-to-back Grand Slam summary:
England Three times: 1913 & 1914; 1923 & 1924; 1991 & 1992.
Wales Once: 1908 & 1909.
France Once: 1997 &1998.How many nations have won back-to-back Grand Slams in the Five & Six Nations?
FWIW I hope, if England win against Ireland, they kick on to knock Cyprus off the top spot so its at least held by a proper rugby nation (no offence Mouflons).
@TeWaio said in Six Nations 2017:
FWIW I hope, if England win against Ireland, they kick on to knock Cyprus off the top spot so its at least held by a proper rugby nation (no offence Mouflons).
And considering they've got Argentina, Australia, Samoa in Autumn, then the 6N with Wales & Ireland at Twickenham... the odds look pretty good.
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@TeWaio said in Six Nations 2017:
FWIW I hope, if England win against Ireland, they kick on to knock Cyprus off the top spot so its at least held by a proper rugby nation (no offence Mouflons).
And considering they've got Argentina, Australia, Samoa in Autumn, then the 6N with Wales & Ireland at Twickenham... the odds look pretty good.
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@Kruse A Lions depleted England playing in Argentina is a stern task IMO.
@antipodean Ah, yes, I'd forgotten the "mid-year" tours... yeah, that could be tricky.
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Ah, Fergus McFadden back for Ireland. Great to see in-form, up and coming players given a chance.
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I think Schmidt's time is coming to an end. Getting outplayed by Wales and Scotland is enough for me. He has far more resources to pick from yet that's the best he can come up with. Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
They're capable of stopping England because they play a risk free, grind down the opposition type of game but its puke rugby and only good for the odd one off victory.
@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
The way they played in the return match in Ireland would suggest it wasn't. THey played really well that day - well enough to beat damn near anyone except a motivated NZ team. Great test to watch.
What's truly remarkable is that the English have this winning streak that started in their last pool match in their home world cup where they couldn't get out of their pool! No suggesting that the team back then was crap. Well done to them, and particularly well done Eddie Jones.
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@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
The way they played in the return match in Ireland would suggest it wasn't. THey played really well that day - well enough to beat damn near anyone except a motivated NZ team. Great test to watch.
What's truly remarkable is that the English have this winning streak that started in their last pool match in their home world cup where they couldn't get out of their pool! No suggesting that the team back then was crap. Well done to them, and particularly well done Eddie Jones.
@nzzp said in Six Nations 2017:
@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
The way they played in the return match in Ireland would suggest it wasn't. THey played really well that day - well enough to beat damn near anyone except a motivated NZ team. Great test to watch.
What's truly remarkable is that the English have this winning streak that started in their last pool match in their home world cup where they couldn't get out of their pool! No suggesting that the team back then was crap. Well done to them, and particularly well done Eddie Jones.
Scored 0 tries in that second game. 0 tries against Wales. 1 try against France. That's the problem. The game plan is to use the forwards as battering rams and inch their way up the pitch.
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@nzzp said in Six Nations 2017:
@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
The way they played in the return match in Ireland would suggest it wasn't. THey played really well that day - well enough to beat damn near anyone except a motivated NZ team. Great test to watch.
What's truly remarkable is that the English have this winning streak that started in their last pool match in their home world cup where they couldn't get out of their pool! No suggesting that the team back then was crap. Well done to them, and particularly well done Eddie Jones.
Scored 0 tries in that second game. 0 tries against Wales. 1 try against France. That's the problem. The game plan is to use the forwards as battering rams and inch their way up the pitch.
@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
@nzzp said in Six Nations 2017:
@profitius said in Six Nations 2017:
Forget the win against NZ. That was truly a one off.
The way they played in the return match in Ireland would suggest it wasn't. THey played really well that day - well enough to beat damn near anyone except a motivated NZ team. Great test to watch.
What's truly remarkable is that the English have this winning streak that started in their last pool match in their home world cup where they couldn't get out of their pool! No suggesting that the team back then was crap. Well done to them, and particularly well done Eddie Jones.
Scored 0 tries in that second game. 0 tries against Wales. 1 try against France. That's the problem. The game plan is to use the forwards as battering rams and inch their way up the pitch.
They got 5 against New Zealand, and 9 against Italy, but I know those ones don't really count.....
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I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
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I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
@Bovidae said in Six Nations 2017:
I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
France can drop out of the top 8 with a loss too - with Argentina sneaking back in. So you could theoretically get a NZ, RSA, France, Samoa, USA pool if the cookie crumbles that way.
The way Wales, France, Ireland and the Boks fortunes can fluctuate there doesn't really seem too much advantage in being in the 1-4 or 5-8 pots - the luck seems to be more in who you are paired with from the other pot.
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@Bovidae said in Six Nations 2017:
I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
France can drop out of the top 8 with a loss too - with Argentina sneaking back in. So you could theoretically get a NZ, RSA, France, Samoa, USA pool if the cookie crumbles that way.
The way Wales, France, Ireland and the Boks fortunes can fluctuate there doesn't really seem too much advantage in being in the 1-4 or 5-8 pots - the luck seems to be more in who you are paired with from the other pot.
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If Ireland and Wales both lose can Scotland crack 4th?
Might have to go to that calculator thing and work this out
