Six Nations 2017
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I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
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I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
@Bovidae said in Six Nations 2017:
I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
France can drop out of the top 8 with a loss too - with Argentina sneaking back in. So you could theoretically get a NZ, RSA, France, Samoa, USA pool if the cookie crumbles that way.
The way Wales, France, Ireland and the Boks fortunes can fluctuate there doesn't really seem too much advantage in being in the 1-4 or 5-8 pots - the luck seems to be more in who you are paired with from the other pot.
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@Bovidae said in Six Nations 2017:
I was just reading that this weekend's games also have a big impact on the seedings for RWC 2019.
If Ireland win they retain the no.4 ranking and would join NZ, England and Australia in Pot 1 (top seeds for the groups) when the draw is made on May 10. But if Ireland lose to England and Wales beat France in Paris then Wales takes that 4th seeding.
France can drop out of the top 8 with a loss too - with Argentina sneaking back in. So you could theoretically get a NZ, RSA, France, Samoa, USA pool if the cookie crumbles that way.
The way Wales, France, Ireland and the Boks fortunes can fluctuate there doesn't really seem too much advantage in being in the 1-4 or 5-8 pots - the luck seems to be more in who you are paired with from the other pot.
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If Ireland and Wales both lose can Scotland crack 4th?
Might have to go to that calculator thing and work this out
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@Crucial Scotland is playing at home and are currently ranked 5th while Italy is ranked 15th.
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Wales unchanged for the France match. Unsurprisingly considering the performance against Ireland and the WC seeding on the line.
WALES XV
Halfpenny, North, Davies, S Williams, L Williams, Biggar, Webb
Evans, Owens, Francis, Ball, AW Jones (capt), Warburton, Tipuric, MoriartyReplacements:
Baldwin, Smith, Lee, Charteris, Faletau
G Davies, S Davies, Roberts -
Two changes for England in the Dublin game. Watson in for Nowell and Billy Vunipola in for Hughes. A pity for Nowell who has done nothing wrong and has been very busy as well as providing a lot of go forward, but Watson has that extra pace and is a proven finisher. Vunipola for Hughes is less of a surprise as you sort of got the feeling that Hughes was only keeping the bed warm for Vunipola. Billy V is fast becoming one of Eddie's first names on the team sheet together with Farrell (which reminds me of an old football commentary that may be urban myth. Talking about England selection in the 1990s "It's always good to see Seaman on the sheet first thing"), anyway I Lee Grant.
England team to face Ireland in Dublin:
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, Daly, Ford, Youngs, Marler, Hartley (c), Cole, Launchbury, Lawes, Itoje, Vunipola, Haskell.
Bench: George, Vinipola, Sinckler, Wood, Hughes, Care, Teo, Nowell.
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@gollum I would expect to see him there in the summer tour if he's not in NZ with the Lions.
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Must be disappointing for Nowell, as he is striking tries at a similar level to Watson (Nowell 11 in 21 games, Watson 13 in 25)
Imo they should both be playing, Watson @15 instead of Brown.@Sapetyvi said in Six Nations 2017:
Must be disappointing for Nowell, as he is striking tries at a similar level to Watson (Nowell 11 in 21 games, Watson 13 in 25)
Imo they should both be playing, Watson @15 instead of Brown.Yeah, I think thats a far better back 3, and I think Eddie would have wanted to try that but injury & England not firing haven't helped.
Issue is Brown wont be with the lions either & he'll probably end up captaining that team
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@Sapetyvi said in Six Nations 2017:
Must be disappointing for Nowell, as he is striking tries at a similar level to Watson (Nowell 11 in 21 games, Watson 13 in 25)
Imo they should both be playing, Watson @15 instead of Brown.Yeah, I think thats a far better back 3, and I think Eddie would have wanted to try that but injury & England not firing haven't helped.
Issue is Brown wont be with the lions either & he'll probably end up captaining that team
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@gollum Hadn't thought of Brown as captaining the touring side. That is a possibility although I'm sure we can all think of better candidates that are unlikely to go to NZ.
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@gollum Hadn't thought of Brown as captaining the touring side. That is a possibility although I'm sure we can all think of better candidates that are unlikely to go to NZ.
Hartley....
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@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@gollum Hadn't thought of Brown as captaining the touring side. That is a possibility although I'm sure we can all think of better candidates that are unlikely to go to NZ.
Hartley....
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@gollum Hadn't thought of Brown as captaining the touring side. That is a possibility although I'm sure we can all think of better candidates that are unlikely to go to NZ.
Hartley....
Beat me to it!
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Two changes for England in the Dublin game. Watson in for Nowell and Billy Vunipola in for Hughes. A pity for Nowell who has done nothing wrong and has been very busy as well as providing a lot of go forward, but Watson has that extra pace and is a proven finisher. Vunipola for Hughes is less of a surprise as you sort of got the feeling that Hughes was only keeping the bed warm for Vunipola. Billy V is fast becoming one of Eddie's first names on the team sheet together with Farrell (which reminds me of an old football commentary that may be urban myth. Talking about England selection in the 1990s "It's always good to see Seaman on the sheet first thing"), anyway I Lee Grant.
England team to face Ireland in Dublin:
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, Daly, Ford, Youngs, Marler, Hartley (c), Cole, Launchbury, Lawes, Itoje, Vunipola, Haskell.
Bench: George, Vinipola, Sinckler, Wood, Hughes, Care, Teo, Nowell.
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
Two changes for England in the Dublin game. Watson in for Nowell and Billy Vunipola in for Hughes. A pity for Nowell who has done nothing wrong and has been very busy as well as providing a lot of go forward, but Watson has that extra pace and is a proven finisher. Vunipola for Hughes is less of a surprise as you sort of got the feeling that Hughes was only keeping the bed warm for Vunipola. Billy V is fast becoming one of Eddie's first names on the team sheet together with Farrell (which reminds me of an old football commentary that may be urban myth. Talking about England selection in the 1990s "It's always good to see Seaman on the sheet first thing"), anyway I Lee Grant.
England team to face Ireland in Dublin:
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, Daly, Ford, Youngs, Marler, Hartley (c), Cole, Launchbury, Lawes, Itoje, Vunipola, Haskell.
Bench: George, Vinipola, Sinckler, Wood, Hughes, Care, Teo, Nowell.
Any chance you poms can move on from the 1950s and start listing your players from 1-15 like the modern world? You seem to not have noticed that the numbers on the jerseys have changed.
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@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@gollum Hadn't thought of Brown as captaining the touring side. That is a possibility although I'm sure we can all think of better candidates that are unlikely to go to NZ.
Hartley....
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
Hartley....
Given the shortness of the tour & the fact the English locks are all going, and most of their loosies it'd be brave not to take him, purely on a "can we win our lineouts 100% guarenteed?" point of view. He's a good all round hooker & its probably easier to teach AW-Jones & Warburton the English lineout calls than teach Launchberry, Itoje, Kruis & Vunipola a whole new made up set
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@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
Hartley....
Given the shortness of the tour & the fact the English locks are all going, and most of their loosies it'd be brave not to take him, purely on a "can we win our lineouts 100% guarenteed?" point of view. He's a good all round hooker & its probably easier to teach AW-Jones & Warburton the English lineout calls than teach Launchberry, Itoje, Kruis & Vunipola a whole new made up set
