Hurricanes v Highlanders
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Some players look good at U20 level then poor at Super level: Akira Ioane and Tevita Li take a bow (had a mare).
Others effortlessly make the step up: hello Jordie Barrett. Has AB stamped all over him.
Laumape is having a great start to the season.
Shout out to Luke Whitelock who had a high work-rate in a losing cause.
Why does Otere Black not head to the Blues?? Would be a guaranteed starter week after week...
@Billy-Tell said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Why does Otere Black not head to the Blues?? Would be a guaranteed starter week after week...
I don't think he can. He is contracted to the Canes
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@hydro11 said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Mattasaurus said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@hydro11
Fekitoa few weeks backWasn't that from a tackled in the air? That's a completely different situation.
Not that different really. You are looking at foul play both ways and there is an expectation of care being taken.
TJP may have been going for the ball but he was also swinging his arm toward a head at pace. He is expected to judge the danger of his action just as a competing player at a high kick situation is.
@Crucial said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@hydro11 said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Mattasaurus said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@hydro11
Fekitoa few weeks backWasn't that from a tackled in the air? That's a completely different situation.
Not that different really. You are looking at foul play both ways and there is an expectation of care being taken.
TJP may have been going for the ball but he was also swinging his arm toward a head at pace. He is expected to judge the danger of his action just as a competing player at a high kick situation is.
And they both received a yellow card for it.
It was completely different to the Luatua situation where Luatua deliberately did use force.
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Some players look good at U20 level then poor at Super level: Akira Ioane and Tevita Li take a bow (had a mare).
Others effortlessly make the step up: hello Jordie Barrett. Has AB stamped all over him.
Laumape is having a great start to the season.
Shout out to Luke Whitelock who had a high work-rate in a losing cause.
Why does Otere Black not head to the Blues?? Would be a guaranteed starter week after week...
@Billy-Tell why would a young 10, I assume with AB aspirations, go to the Blues? I read something the other day the Blues have had 23 or so 10s since Carlos, who would have been the last AB 10 at the Blues?
Granted it is an opportunity to be the one to right the ship, but a big risk isn't it.
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@Billy-Tell said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Why does Otere Black not head to the Blues?? Would be a guaranteed starter week after week...
I don't think he can. He is contracted to the Canes
@Crucial said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Billy-Tell said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Why does Otere Black not head to the Blues?? Would be a guaranteed starter week after week...
I don't think he can. He is contracted to the Canes
According to my information, he's coming off contract at the end of the 2017 season. He is contracted to the Turbos until 2018 though.
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While watching the game last night, I couldn't help but hope that Gardner is one of the 3 refs used in the Lions series. I rate him highly and I suppose it's between him, Peyper, Garces and Poite for the test appointments. Maybe Joubert is still in the mix.
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While watching the game last night, I couldn't help but hope that Gardner is one of the 3 refs used in the Lions series. I rate him highly and I suppose it's between him, Peyper, Garces and Poite for the test appointments. Maybe Joubert is still in the mix.
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yeah he manages the game and players pretty well, told TJP to pipe down a couple of times last night when he was getting a bit lippy
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I think I need to mention for the 5th or 6th time that Ardie was bloody good at 8. Really bloody good. With KR getting on a bit, we could be seeing a very worthy successor.
Hopefully that wasn't just a one-off.
Again, I'm a broken record, but if Jordie keeps this up he has to be an AB this year. He won't start obviously, but would be gold off the bench.
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I think I need to mention for the 5th or 6th time that Ardie was bloody good at 8. Really bloody good. With KR getting on a bit, we could be seeing a very worthy successor.
Hopefully that wasn't just a one-off.
Again, I'm a broken record, but if Jordie keeps this up he has to be an AB this year. He won't start obviously, but would be gold off the bench.
@Rancid-Schnitzel I still have concerns over Ardie's lack of size at the highest level. Last year we saw a drop off in physicality when Cane was replaced by Ardie. Hansen wants him to add another 5kgs and I think he may be right. He needs to get bigger if he wants to dominate at test level.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel I still have concerns over Ardie's lack of size at the highest level. Last year we saw a drop off in physicality when Cane was replaced by Ardie. Hansen wants him to add another 5kgs and I think he may be right. He needs to get bigger if he wants to dominate at test level.
@akan004 said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I still have concerns over Ardie's lack of size at the highest level. Last year we saw a drop off in physicality when Cane was replaced by Ardie. Hansen wants him to add another 5kgs and I think he may be right. He needs to get bigger if he wants to dominate at test level.
What are his stats compared to Rodney S? I agree that the physicality factor drops when he replaces Cane, but what if they're on the park at the same time?
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@akan004 said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I still have concerns over Ardie's lack of size at the highest level. Last year we saw a drop off in physicality when Cane was replaced by Ardie. Hansen wants him to add another 5kgs and I think he may be right. He needs to get bigger if he wants to dominate at test level.
What are his stats compared to Rodney S? I agree that the physicality factor drops when he replaces Cane, but what if they're on the park at the same time?
@Rancid-Schnitzel I think Rodders was 106-108, while Ardie is around the 100 mark. Ardie will get bigger as he gets older, and come 2019 he might be the perfect back up to Read. We do need to find a back up eight though, I do agree with that. I think it's the one position where we have very little depth in NZ atm.
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it may not be so much a permanent move to 8 , but increasing his value by being more of a utility , particularly from the bench
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Anyone else pick up Jordies issue's in the tackle. His technique seems off and was only just fortunate a couple times there with glancing efforts just doing enough. Outside of that though he has a hell of a lot of upside to him.
@Rembrandt said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Anyone else pick up Jordies issue's in the tackle. His technique seems off and was only just fortunate a couple times there with glancing efforts just doing enough. Outside of that though he has a hell of a lot of upside to him.
Yes, I noticed it as well. His tackling should be a big work-on, but other than that, what a talent!
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Hmmm, so can Scott and Kane (is he the other Barrett?) tackle? As much credit as Smiley gets for producing his boys he gets a big negative for their defensive abilities. I assume some time in the ABs will iron out JB deficiencies like they mostly did with BB.
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@Rembrandt said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Anyone else pick up Jordies issue's in the tackle. His technique seems off and was only just fortunate a couple times there with glancing efforts just doing enough. Outside of that though he has a hell of a lot of upside to him.
Yes, I noticed it as well. His tackling should be a big work-on, but other than that, what a talent!
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
@Rembrandt said in Hurricanes v Highlanders:
Anyone else pick up Jordies issue's in the tackle. His technique seems off and was only just fortunate a couple times there with glancing efforts just doing enough. Outside of that though he has a hell of a lot of upside to him.
Yes, I noticed it as well. His tackling should be a big work-on, but other than that, what a talent!
They used to say big bro Beauden was shit at tackling a while ago. No problem!!
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Now I have no clue about tackling people from behind as I have never been fast enough to catch anyone, but seems like both BB and JB have no issue with getting guys from behind but mostly front on by getting caught on a slightly bad body position/on their heels(now that is something I know about haha) BB less so nowadays.
Reckon Jordie, being a big lad, will get good enough coaching to fix any impending flaws in his game.
