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Six Nations 2017

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    You lot celebrating Ireland beating England reeks of the Aussies celebrating Ireland beating us. It's a little distasteful.

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    @mariner4life said in Six Nations 2017:

    You lot celebrating Ireland beating England reeks of the Aussies celebrating Ireland beating us. It's a little distasteful.

    You're telling me. It knocks the Scots from a respectable 2nd to 3rd/4th equal on the table.

    Mind you the way they're carrying on on the Scots rugby chat forum on Facebook and hailing Vern Cotter as the second coming of Jesus Christ you'd think they'd just won the Webb Ellis Cup.

    It's fucken good to come back here and keep it real with a bit of TSF hostility and cynicism.

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      Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

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        What a mess there, at the end of the France-Wales match. It took 20 minutes to finish the game. If Barnes would have had the guts to yellow-card more Welsh players, it wouldn't have been such a shambles. I heard him say, after the French captain asked for about the 8th time why they didn't get a penalty try, that he couldn't award it because the scrum hadn't moved forward more than 1.5m. What's the rule there, anyone know?

        Anyway, it was so clear that the Welsh pulled down the scrum all the time (due to fatigue), that more players should have been sent to the bin. The game would have lasted, maybe, 85 minutes, instead of almost 100. Bloody hell. And he wanted the TMO to look for biting? Why couldn't that wait until after the game? I'm sure the Citing Commissioner will have a look ...

        Fortunately, the team that deserved the win most won.

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        @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

        Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

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          @Stargazer said in Six Nations 2017:

          Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

          He has seemed to get away with foul play or borderline the whole tournament, with several instances a match. It could come back to bite the lions in a big way unless gatland has been taking notice.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            You lot celebrating Ireland beating England reeks of the Aussies celebrating Ireland beating us. It's a little distasteful.

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            @mariner4life said in Six Nations 2017:

            You lot celebrating Ireland beating England reeks of the Aussies celebrating Ireland beating us. It's a little distasteful.

            Yeah... nah.
            They can suck it.

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              @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

              Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

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              @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

              @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

              Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

              Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

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                That was a good game to finish the 6 nations! And no doubt about it; Ireland deserved that win! Gutsy performance.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                  @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                  Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                  Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

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                  @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                  @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                  @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                  Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                  Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

                  Barnes just kept digging the hole deeper for himself didn't he?
                  He's an odd one as he can go 98% of a game looking like a very good ref then completely fuck things up

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                    @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                    Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                    Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

                    Barnes just kept digging the hole deeper for himself didn't he?
                    He's an odd one as he can go 98% of a game looking like a very good ref then completely fuck things up

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                    @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                    Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                    Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

                    Barnes just kept digging the hole deeper for himself didn't he?
                    He's an odd one as he can go 98% of a game looking like a very good ref then completely fuck things up

                    Yep, totally agree. The fact he is a very good ref, good communicator most of the time makes the fuck ups even more painful. During his brain explosions it's like he pre-decides stuff and then is too arrogant to change his mind:

                    This forward pass ruling was fucking amazing:

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                      Having in Chicago seen the Irish stop our run, I'm pleased to say I was there to witness the Poms' chariot being derailed. Spoke to Joe Schmidt later. Quietly satisfied and very respectful of English. Key tactic to gang tackle everything in a white jersey. Interesting that he said he also would have kicked for touch instead of taking the long range shot with ten to go.

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                      • TeWaioT TeWaio

                        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                        Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                        Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

                        Barnes just kept digging the hole deeper for himself didn't he?
                        He's an odd one as he can go 98% of a game looking like a very good ref then completely fuck things up

                        Yep, totally agree. The fact he is a very good ref, good communicator most of the time makes the fuck ups even more painful. During his brain explosions it's like he pre-decides stuff and then is too arrogant to change his mind:

                        This forward pass ruling was fucking amazing:

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                        @TeWaio said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Stargazer Barnes caved to Norths whinging about being bitten, running over from the sideline to cry and try tell anyone who'd listen that he had bite marks on his arm...

                        Barnes needs a rest and to be sat down and shown the massive inconsistencies in his game.

                        Refs seem so much more above the law than players ( in lots of sports and it shits me to no end ). If their blunders are apparent after people look at them impartially after the event they should be stood down, fuck, Barnes shouldn't have refereed another game after his efforts in 2007. Also they should be seen and not heard and let the game flow, Nigel Owens, Billy Bowden....fuck off with your 'quips' and 'idiosyncrasies'.....we're there to watch sport, not your self indulgent shit. I know NZ comedy is in a pretty poor state when shows like 7 days get airtime but with YouTube being readily available we don't need you dickwads trying to be characters.

                        Barnes just kept digging the hole deeper for himself didn't he?
                        He's an odd one as he can go 98% of a game looking like a very good ref then completely fuck things up

                        Yep, totally agree. The fact he is a very good ref, good communicator most of the time makes the fuck ups even more painful. During his brain explosions it's like he pre-decides stuff and then is too arrogant to change his mind:

                        This forward pass ruling was fucking amazing:

                        Not surprising Wales were involved again. He went to school in Wales and yet he is always reffing their matches. It was his 4th or 5th time reffing a Wales Ireland 6 nations match which is amazing considering they can only play that once a year and theres always big calls going against Ireland late on. The match against France was his second time reffing Wales this 6 nations. I have to applaud the WRU for consistently getting their man.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

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                          @Stargazer said in Six Nations 2017:

                          Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

                          Under current SR protocols he would have received a minimum of YC , and a possible citing..

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                            @Stargazer said in Six Nations 2017:

                            Watching Ireland v England replay. How did Itoje not get a yellow card in the 18th minute? Late, shoulder tackle ...

                            Under current SR protocols he would have received a minimum of YC , and a possible citing..

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                            @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

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                              England didn't string together one backline move in the whole game. Farell was good, everyone else were a bit meh.

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                              @akan004 said in Six Nations 2017:

                              England didn't string together one backline move in the whole game. Farell was good, everyone else were a bit meh.

                              I thought England got caught out looking at the big picture and forgot to focus on the getting the job at hand done first - win the game and play what is in front of you first and foremost. Records / history come later.

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                                @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

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                                @pakman Good question. I can't find anything that relates to 6N protocols.

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                                  Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

                                  Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

                                  Bugger

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                                    @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

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                                    @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

                                    @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

                                    Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

                                    As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

                                    Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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                                      @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

                                      Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

                                      As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

                                      Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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                                      @Crucial My bad (again!). What would be interesting would be to compare SR's ref 'guidelines' with those of 6N.

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                                        @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

                                        Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

                                        As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

                                        Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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                                        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

                                        @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

                                        Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

                                        As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

                                        Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

                                        Dearie me. They were deliberate high tackles. Get over it and stop whinging about Irish whinging. Jeez, I thought the Irish were bad at it, NZ take the gold medal in nurturing grievances. 😈

                                        Itoje was determined to make a mark and understandably England focussed on Sexton - not exactly an original concept. 😊 The ref warned him a couple of times and it seemed to ease off.

                                        Sexton survived it better this time round. The steel plates in his shoulders helped obviously.

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                                          Sheesh PH - do you think maybe you need to find a more NH focused forum? With this and the Lions thread you're going to give yourself a hernia if you keep this up. (I'm not saying you should go as I like your contributions, but you seem to be in man the barricades mode at the moment).

                                          As for Sexton coping it, DC used to cop it all the time and we were told to stop whinging, so stop your whinging. πŸ™‚

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