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Six Nations 2017

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    Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

    Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

    Bugger

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      @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

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      @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

      @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

      Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

      As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

      Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

        @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

        Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

        As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

        Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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        @Crucial My bad (again!). What would be interesting would be to compare SR's ref 'guidelines' with those of 6N.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

          Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

          As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

          Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

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          Derm McCrum
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          @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

          @pakman said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Crash are the 6N protocols available for inspection?

          Both comps are playing under the same WR directives.

          As much as I thought Ireland whinged when we played them last year about supposed deliberate high tackles (which was bullshit) I think they had a point about the targeting of players with late hits in this game.

          Did anyone else notice the weird England tactic of the ball carrier diving at his would be tackler? I noticed it twice and it was something I have never seen on a rugby field before. It was quite bizarre. I wrote the first one off as an oddity but then it happened again by a different player.

          Dearie me. They were deliberate high tackles. Get over it and stop whinging about Irish whinging. Jeez, I thought the Irish were bad at it, NZ take the gold medal in nurturing grievances. 😈

          Itoje was determined to make a mark and understandably England focussed on Sexton - not exactly an original concept. 😊 The ref warned him a couple of times and it seemed to ease off.

          Sexton survived it better this time round. The steel plates in his shoulders helped obviously.

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            Sheesh PH - do you think maybe you need to find a more NH focused forum? With this and the Lions thread you're going to give yourself a hernia if you keep this up. (I'm not saying you should go as I like your contributions, but you seem to be in man the barricades mode at the moment).

            As for Sexton coping it, DC used to cop it all the time and we were told to stop whinging, so stop your whinging. 🙂

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              Because there's no separate thread for the divisions below the 6 Nations, I'm posting this here.

              After 6 years, Romania has snatched the Rugby Europe Championship title from Georgia, after beating them 8 to 7 on the weekend! Must have been a tough match with such a score. Both countries finished at the same competition points total, so this one-point win earned Romania the title. (If points differential had been the tie breaker, Georgia would have won.)

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              Story: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-europe-wrap-romania-defeat-georgia/

              Final ranking:
              0_1489961675463_upload-cc9aa11b-8760-4705-835b-8f30a585f508

              As Belgium has finished last in this division, they'll have to play a promotion/relegation game on 20 May against the winners of the next division, the Rugby Europe Trophy division. That competition hasn't finished yet.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                Sheesh PH - do you think maybe you need to find a more NH focused forum? With this and the Lions thread you're going to give yourself a hernia if you keep this up. (I'm not saying you should go as I like your contributions, but you seem to be in man the barricades mode at the moment).

                As for Sexton coping it, DC used to cop it all the time and we were told to stop whinging, so stop your whinging. 🙂

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                Derm McCrum
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                @Nepia said in Six Nations 2017:

                Sheesh PH - do you think maybe you need to find a more NH focused forum? With this and the Lions thread you're going to give yourself a hernia if you keep this up. (I'm not saying you should go as I like your contributions, but you seem to be in man the barricades mode at the moment).

                As for Sexton coping it, DC used to cop it all the time and we were told to stop whinging, so stop your whinging. 🙂

                That's the first sensible post I've read on this forum in years. Maybe there's hope for ye all yet.

                I can sleep easy now.

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                  It's okay, Sexton didn't get mad. He got even....

                  Joking aside, well deserved win for Ireland. Always tough to beat in Dublin and we didn't have it on the day. It's certainly a lot easier to take than the 2013 Cardiff debacle

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                    It's okay, Sexton didn't get mad. He got even....

                    Joking aside, well deserved win for Ireland. Always tough to beat in Dublin and we didn't have it on the day. It's certainly a lot easier to take than the 2013 Cardiff debacle

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                    @Margin_Walker said in Six Nations 2017:

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                    It's okay, Sexton didn't get mad. He got even....

                    Joking aside, well deserved win for Ireland. Always tough to beat in Dublin and we didn't have it on the day. It's certainly a lot easier to take than the 2013 Cardiff debacle

                    Lol. I hadn't seen that. Pretty timid effort.
                    It was a tough match. I'm pissed at the soft start to the Scotland game and not being able to close it out when they eventually got ahead. Wales is Wales. They've become our bete noire alongside Argentina in RWCs.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Because there's no separate thread for the divisions below the 6 Nations, I'm posting this here.

                      After 6 years, Romania has snatched the Rugby Europe Championship title from Georgia, after beating them 8 to 7 on the weekend! Must have been a tough match with such a score. Both countries finished at the same competition points total, so this one-point win earned Romania the title. (If points differential had been the tie breaker, Georgia would have won.)

                      alt text

                      Story: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-europe-wrap-romania-defeat-georgia/

                      Final ranking:
                      0_1489961675463_upload-cc9aa11b-8760-4705-835b-8f30a585f508

                      As Belgium has finished last in this division, they'll have to play a promotion/relegation game on 20 May against the winners of the next division, the Rugby Europe Trophy division. That competition hasn't finished yet.

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                      @Stargazer said in Six Nations 2017:

                      Because there's no separate thread for the divisions below the 6 Nations, I'm posting this here.

                      After 6 years, Romania has snatched the Rugby Europe Championship title from Georgia, after beating them 8 to 7 on the weekend! Must have been a tough match with such a score. Both countries finished at the same competition points total, so this one-point win earned Romania the title. (If points differential had been the tie breaker, Georgia would have won.)

                      alt text

                      Story: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-europe-wrap-romania-defeat-georgia/

                      Final ranking:
                      0_1489961675463_upload-cc9aa11b-8760-4705-835b-8f30a585f508

                      As Belgium has finished last in this division, they'll have to play a promotion/relegation game on 20 May against the winners of the next division, the Rugby Europe Trophy division. That competition hasn't finished yet.

                      Italy would be thrilled if one of those teams got promoted to the Seven Nations

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Stargazer said in Six Nations 2017:

                        Because there's no separate thread for the divisions below the 6 Nations, I'm posting this here.

                        After 6 years, Romania has snatched the Rugby Europe Championship title from Georgia, after beating them 8 to 7 on the weekend! Must have been a tough match with such a score. Both countries finished at the same competition points total, so this one-point win earned Romania the title. (If points differential had been the tie breaker, Georgia would have won.)

                        alt text

                        Story: http://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-europe-wrap-romania-defeat-georgia/

                        Final ranking:
                        0_1489961675463_upload-cc9aa11b-8760-4705-835b-8f30a585f508

                        As Belgium has finished last in this division, they'll have to play a promotion/relegation game on 20 May against the winners of the next division, the Rugby Europe Trophy division. That competition hasn't finished yet.

                        Italy would be thrilled if one of those teams got promoted to the Seven Nations

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                        @MN5 Italy only beat Romania by 10 at the 2015 RWC....so they may not be that keen 😉

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                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11821668

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                            Was Jones the only child left in an orphanage?

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

                              Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

                              Bugger

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                              @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                              Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

                              Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

                              Bugger

                              The important part is how you bounce back ,

                              ( Not trying to make it about us but I guess we have been the benchmark )
                              We usually have one disappointing loss a year on average , and most of the time respond by playing better than ever

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                                @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                                Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

                                Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

                                Bugger

                                The important part is how you bounce back ,

                                ( Not trying to make it about us but I guess we have been the benchmark )
                                We usually have one disappointing loss a year on average , and most of the time respond by playing better than ever

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                                @kiwiinmelb said in Six Nations 2017:

                                @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                                Well, bugger. Just bugger. England were dogshite, Ireland were click or two above in the intensity and even more so in the thought processes. Deserved winners. Congratulations @Pot-Hale and @profitius and any other Irish posters.

                                Disappointed with the result but much more disappointed with the performance.

                                Bugger

                                The important part is how you bounce back ,

                                ( Not trying to make it about us but I guess we have been the benchmark )
                                We usually have one disappointing loss a year on average , and most of the time respond by playing better than ever

                                It's tough trying to bounceback against the Argies with all core players on Lions duty. Once reunited the loss will be just a distant memory.

                                If England are aiming to be a legitimate contender for best team in the world I hope when they assess the tournament they fall more on the side of being a team that probably played more shit halves than good ones - rather than the team a try away from a world record streak.

                                They definitely have developed some mental edge or ability to grind out wins and that is huge - but the fact they have had to pull that out almost every game (sans Scotland) is something that hopefully Eddie Jones is reminding the players. Not quite sure they have separated themselves from the rest of the 6N yet.

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                                  Spiro vents a little bit here

                                  http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

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                                    Spiro vents a little bit here

                                    http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

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                                    @jegga said in Six Nations 2017:

                                    Spiro vents a little bit here

                                    http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

                                    Good article. Nice to see someone of standing in the game call the Walrus out for the antiquated, dinosaur fuckstick that he is.

                                    I did have to look up what 'expunged' meant though.

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                                      @jegga said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      Spiro vents a little bit here

                                      http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

                                      Good article. Nice to see someone of standing in the game call the Walrus out for the antiquated, dinosaur fuckstick that he is.

                                      I did have to look up what 'expunged' meant though.

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                                      @MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      @jegga said in Six Nations 2017:

                                      Spiro vents a little bit here

                                      http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

                                      Good article. Nice to see someone of standing in the game call the Walrus out for the antiquated, dinosaur fuckstick that he is.

                                      I did have to look up what 'expunged' meant though.

                                      He didnt miss did he ? 🙂

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                                        Spiro vents a little bit here

                                        http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/03/20/spiro-oh-dear-thuggish-england-get-expunged-from-predicted-back-to-back-grand-slams/

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                                        @jegga Excellent article. He hits the nail on the head there

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                                          Some interesting analysis on the difference Payne made to the Ireland game on Saturday

                                          http://www.the42.ie/analysis-jared-payne-fullback-ireland-3296144-Mar2017/

                                          The analysis is accurate but also highlights the difference between some of the NH play and that of SH teams. WE find this way of playing an expectation rather than something 'unusual'. If you watched a Chiefs game without jersey numbers you would probably struggle to know who is playing in which position in the backline a lot of the time. You'd certainly struggle to know if Cruden or DMac was playing 10.

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