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NRL 2017

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  • SneakdefreakS Offline
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    #247

    A lot of swearing on the North Shore tonight. Not that my neighbours mind as none speak any English since the North Shore was sold to the CCP. FML.

    Thoughts:

    • Forget the Dragons, this game was all about the poor attitude and approach by the Warriors. In all four rounds, the forwards have looked meek and timid, while the backs looked disjointed.
    • The set up is all wrong. Mick Ennis in commentary got it right when he said that this team needs momentum coming from the ruck area, and not waiting for Shaun Johnson to create momentum.
    • To get momentum you need forwards to do what their title suggests. Forward means forward and not backwards, sideways or standing still. At times it seemed only Lillyman and Gavet were trying to gain momentum.
    • Gavet showed why he should have been in this team to start the season. 130 metres off the bench. He actually makes an impact unlike Charlie Gubb.
    • I said in my preview that Gubb offers nothing and he did that tonight. Made less than 50 metres on the ground.
    • I'll say this too. Get rid of Gubb and the forward pack will improve dramatically.
    • But Luke needs to do more dummyhalf running as well. When he did the Dragons went backwards. To be even more effective, we need another dummyhalf runner coming off the bench, Tevaga or Roache.
    • Hoffman and Thompson haven't played great, but I do think they are trying too much to make up for the lack of intensity from others.
    • Shame about Foran and now creeping into my head is this notion that he might not play at all this season.
    • Lolohea was valiant in the halves but he is too similar a player to Johnson.
    • Move Hingano or Roache into halfback and Johnson into stand off. Hingano/Roache just need to play a simple game ala Nathan Fien back in 2008, and allow Johnson to work off the momentum.
    • Next up is the Titans and while Kata will want to face off against Hurrell, it might be time for a short stint in NSW Cup.
    • Maumalo can also head down to NSW Cup. He has the size but I don't think he'll be Vatuvei 2.0 or another Fusitua.
    • Chanze Nicoll-Klokstad deserves a crack in the NRL and starting on the wing, with Fusitua and Ayshford in the centres, should be the go next week.
    • It dawned on me during the game but Blake Ayshford played in the NSW Cup on Saturday and in tonight's game. I wonder if that is allowed?
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    • NepiaN Offline
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      Nepia
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      #248

      Nice write up sneak.

      I see the Kata bubble has bursted ... I'm sure I may have suggested this might happen. 😉

      I actually thought Hoffman ran pretty well tonight but showed Warriors level off the ball rather than Storm level off the ball.

      Our pack is a bit powder puff really - yet the TV dudes over here always go on about how strong they are, it's bemusing.

      Hopefully Foran actually makes the field for the Warriors - in the interview they were playing while he was warming up he was talking about how he was a big Warriors and Stacey Jones fan as a kid - so some game time would be nice.

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        "I see the Kata bubble has bursted ... I'm sure I may have suggested this might happen."

        Think it has more to do with his lack of trust in Maumalo and I don't blame him. Maumalo seems lost at times out there....

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        • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

          "I see the Kata bubble has bursted ... I'm sure I may have suggested this might happen."

          Think it has more to do with his lack of trust in Maumalo and I don't blame him. Maumalo seems lost at times out there....

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          @Sneakdefreak said in NRL 2017:

          "I see the Kata bubble has bursted ... I'm sure I may have suggested this might happen."

          Think it has more to do with his lack of trust in Maumalo and I don't blame him. Maumalo seems lost at times out there....

          I don't know what his inability to catch a ball, hold on to a ball has to do with Maumalo ....

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            Nice write up sneak.

            I see the Kata bubble has bursted ... I'm sure I may have suggested this might happen. 😉

            I actually thought Hoffman ran pretty well tonight but showed Warriors level off the ball rather than Storm level off the ball.

            Our pack is a bit powder puff really - yet the TV dudes over here always go on about how strong they are, it's bemusing.

            Hopefully Foran actually makes the field for the Warriors - in the interview they were playing while he was warming up he was talking about how he was a big Warriors and Stacey Jones fan as a kid - so some game time would be nice.

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            @Nepia said in NRL 2017:

            Nice write up sneak.

            Our pack is a bit powder puff really - yet the TV dudes over here always go on about how strong they are, it's bemusing.

            It shows their lack of analysis of the current side , and are just using the stereotypical view of the warriors over here ( all brawn no brains)

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              Gunner
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              #252

              Before I got the shits with the useless fluffybunnies and stopped watching, I heard the comms say that this is Lillymans 9th season at the Warriors. Didn't realise he'd been here for so long, I thought it would have been about 5 or 6.

              As for the Warriors, burn the place down and start from scratch somewhere else.
              Kaikohe might be a good option, could start by filling the team with their hood rats, they've got more mongrel than this team.

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @Nepia said in NRL 2017:

                Nice write up sneak.

                Our pack is a bit powder puff really - yet the TV dudes over here always go on about how strong they are, it's bemusing.

                It shows their lack of analysis of the current side , and are just using the stereotypical view of the warriors over here ( all brawn no brains)

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                @kiwiinmelb said in NRL 2017:

                @Nepia said in NRL 2017:

                Nice write up sneak.

                Our pack is a bit powder puff really - yet the TV dudes over here always go on about how strong they are, it's bemusing.

                It shows their lack of analysis of the current side , and are just using the stereotypical view of the warriors over here ( all brawn no brains)

                In general the league analysis is usually pretty good. Much better than what Sky serves up for the rugby. And the odd commentator will mention it's a myth but then it will get forgotten by the co-commentator or panel.

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                  This is fucked. We are so shit.

                  Our forwards lack power, aggression, and technique. Slow play the ball after slow play the ball. Barely denting the line, so our backs are playing off shit ball.

                  Agree with sneak though, it's all coming form hooker, where Luke is shit. And the bench is all wrong as well, you need someone with quick feet to play late in each half. Pure bulk won't cut it.

                  There is a bit of that throughout the side, just a bunch of big blokes, where is the speed? Maumolo is a big waste of space. Kata was really good last year, this year he's rubbish. Fusitua isn't seeing the ball. Ayshford wouldn't get a gig for most other sides.

                  SJ tried yesterday, he touched the ball a lot. Tui had a go as well, but it looked like everyone met in the carpark.

                  We suck. Still! Same shit as well. Fucking Warriors.

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                    What sort of money is Luke on ? Quite a bit I would imagine ,

                    I can remember not so long ago before he left Sydney , people were saying he was challenging Smith as the best hooker in the game

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                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                      What sort of money is Luke on ? Quite a bit I would imagine ,

                      I can remember not so long ago before he left Sydney , people were saying he was challenging Smith as the best hooker in the game

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                      @kiwiinmelb he genuinely was, and i thought the change in the wrestle interpretations would suit him, but alas...

                      Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

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                        @mariner4life said in NRL 2017:

                        Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

                        No.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @kiwiinmelb he genuinely was, and i thought the change in the wrestle interpretations would suit him, but alas...

                          Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

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                          @mariner4life said in NRL 2017:

                          @kiwiinmelb he genuinely was, and i thought the change in the wrestle interpretations would suit him, but alas...

                          Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

                          Price didn't get worse ....

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                            Leaving Foran behind in Sydney to heal and spend time with his kids, what could possibly go wrong with that..

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                              Leaving Foran behind in Sydney to heal and spend time with his kids, what could possibly go wrong with that..

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                              mariner4life
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                              @Virgil does he miss his favourite pokies?

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                                #261

                                He better get back over here. He's been named at stand off to face the GC Titans.

                                VODAFONE WARRIORS

                                1 ROGER TUIVASA-SHECK (c)

                                2 BLAKE AYSHFORD

                                3 DAVID FUSITU’A

                                4 SOLOMONE KATA

                                5 KEN MAUMALO

                                6 KIERAN FORAN

                                7 SHAUN JOHNSON

                                8 CHARLIE GUBB

                                9 ISSAC LUKE

                                10 JACOB LILLYMAN

                                11 BODENE THOMPSON

                                12 RYAN HOFFMAN

                                13 SIMON MANNERING

                                Interchange:

                                14 NATHANIEL ROACHE

                                15 JAMES GAVET

                                16 SAM LISONE

                                17 LIGI SAO

                                18 ALBERT VETE

                                20 BUNTY AFOA

                                21 MASON LINO

                                22 MAFOA’AEATA HINGANO

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                                  On that puff piece/interview they showed when he was warming up on Sunday he mentioned how the Warriors give him time to come back and see his kids ... so it might not be too big a portent of doom him staying over now. I hope.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @kiwiinmelb he genuinely was, and i thought the change in the wrestle interpretations would suit him, but alas...

                                    Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

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                                    @mariner4life said in NRL 2017:

                                    Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

                                    Marc Ellis, John Kirwan, Wade McKinnon...

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                                      @mariner4life said in NRL 2017:

                                      Has any player got better at the Warriors than when he arrived?

                                      Marc Ellis, John Kirwan, Wade McKinnon...

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                                      @Godder Brent webb

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                                        Whetu Taewa.

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                                          Fucking who?

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