2017 New Zealand U20s

booboo

@Chris-B. said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.

I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.

What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.

Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.

Like err Coles or Retallick ..

Frye

@booboo Retallick is from Christchurch....

booboo

@Frye sorry. Meant Whitelock

Chris B.

@booboo said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

@Frye sorry. Meant Whitelock

That's a bit like your fireworks getting rained on on Guy Fawkes night!

cheetahsBO

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Stargazer

@cheetahsBO I made a new thread for 2017 school rugby here: http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1412/2017-school-rugby

Stargazer

The New Zealand Under 20 squad to travel to the Gold Coast, Australia next month for the Oceania Under 20 tournament, has been named.

The squad is:

Forwards

Harrison Allan - Canterbury
Asafo Aumua - Wellington
Sam Caird - Waikato
Adrian Choat - Auckland
Tom Christie - Canterbury
Ryan Coxon - Waikato
Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
Alex Fidow - Wellington
Luke Jacobson (C) - Waikato
Ezekiel Lindenmuth - Auckland
Marino Mikaele -Tuu - Hawkes Bay
Dalton Papalii - Auckland
Jacob Pierce - Auckland
John (JP) Sauni - Auckland
Samuel Slade - Auckland
Pouri Rakete-Stones - Hawkes Bay
Isaia Walker-Leawere - Wellington

Backs

Jordie Barrett (VC) - Taranaki
Caleb Clarke - Auckland
Ereatara Enari - Canterbury
Braydon Ennor - Canterbury
Tima Faingaanuku - Ta$man
Tiaan Falcon - Hawkes Bay
Will Jordan - Canterbury
Kemara Hauiti-Parapara - Wellington
Orbyn Leger - Counties
Josh McKay - Canterbury
Jona Nareki - Otago
Carlos Price - Wellington
Tamati Tua - Northland

Note: Two further players will be named prior to the tournament

Players not considered due to injury:
Stephen Perofeta Auckland

Round 1, Friday 28 April
New Zealand v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST
Australia v Samoa, 7.00pm AEST 

Round 2, Tuesday 2 May 
New Zealand v Samoa, 3.00pm AEST 
Australia v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST 

Round 3, Saturday 6 May
Samoa v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST
Australia v New Zealand, 7.00pm AEST 

All matches will be played at Bond University, Gold Coast Rugby Fields.

http://www.allblacks.com/News/30549/new-zealand-under-20-squad-named-for-oceania-tournament

Tim

@Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

Stephen Perofeta Auckland

I thought he was with Taranaki this year?

mimic

Please stop giving Auckland fans false hope

taniwharugby

Sweet, Tamati Tua made it!

Been a massive couple of years for him from playing U18s in Kaitaia in 2015 to making the NZ squad.

Stargazer

So where have players been dropped/added?

NZ U20s squad by province:

Auckland (7 of the initial 13): Adrian Choat, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Dalton Papalii, Jacob Pierce, John (JP) Sauni, Samuel Slade, Caleb Clarke / injured: Stephen Perofeta (formerly Taranaki)
Canterbury (6 of 6): Harrison Allan, Tom Christie, Ereatara Enari, Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan, Josh McKay
Counties Manukau (1 of 2): Orbyn Leger
Hawke's Bay (from 3 to 4): Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Marino Mikaele-Tuu, Tiaan Falcon
Manawatu (0 of 2): -
North Harbour (0 of 3): -
Northland (1 of 1): Tamati Tua
Otago (1 of 2): Jonah Nareki
Taranaki (1 of 2): Jordie Barrett (vc)
Ta$man (1 of 1): Tima Faingaanuku
Waikato (3 from 9): Sam Caird, Ryan Coxon, Luke Jacobson (c)
Wellington (5 of 11): Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Carlos Price
BOP (0): -
Southland (0): -

The coach has done his job and sneaked in another player from Hawke's Bay (Farrell). @Nepia will be happy
As @Tim already noticed, Perofeta is now allocated to Auckland????
On Twitter, Will Jordan is named as a Ta$man Mako, not a Cantab.

KiwiMurph

Wait so Perofeta missed the Brisbane 10s due to injury, made his comeback the saturday before last, then played last Wednesday, and is apparently now re-injured for at least another month?

Stargazer

Does anyone else get annoyed by the media immediately headlining that Jordie Barrett is in the squad. As if he's the only one with talent in that squad worth mentioning? I'm sure there are more players in this team who will eventually make the ABs; the media just can't be bothered to watch them play to notice their potential.

Tim

@Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?

taniwharugby

@Tim when they show the BLues dev sides they list some players as Blues, some as thier province.

Stargazer

@Tim Maybe? Although I noticed that - now that the Canes U20s and Dev team have played their final games - a full squad member like Jonah Lowe has returned to the Bay to play for his club Clive and not for the Wellington club he had been assigned to. Of course, there's usually more depth at wing/midfield than at first-five, so that could be a reason why the Blues want to keep Perofeta in Auckland.

Bovidae

Fidow named so scrummaging still not a priority. No Shneil Singh - our first Indian AB.

As Philpott is the coach winning will be a surprise.

IIRC there were a few changes in the squad from the Oceania tourny to the WC last year.

Whites72

@Bovidae who are the players to look out for apart from the usual players like jordie Barrett .
Carlos price I've been told is really talented but no idea on any others

KiwiMurph

A further two players will be added prior to the tournament, with selectors hopeful that Blues first-five Stephen Perofeta will be recovered from injury in time to join the squad.

Bovidae

@Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

The Silver Fern

2017 New Zealand U20s