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Stormers v Blues

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  • menceyM mencey

    It seems that the decisions tend to go against non SA team from SA refs in general just IMHO.

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    @mencey said in Stormers vs. Blues:

    It seems that the decisions tend to go against non SA team from SA refs in general just IMHO.

    Haven't seen the game but read a couple of reports. (Campese directly accuses them of cheating in a couple of tweets. Don't hold back David.)

    But the point of neutral refs is that incompetence can't be mistaken for bias or something worse.

    It removes suspicion.

    (BTW @mencey it's "biased". Bias is the concept. 😉 )

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      wow, Matt Duffie with the most ridiculous RC I've seen in quite a while, neither of his YCs were even penalties IMO (he wasn't offside for the first, and the second was not a penalty - unless you get penalised for playing against a fucking midget who cries when someone runs into him)

      Or what was the 2nd YC for? Had no sound but looked like a no incident to me

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        Referee had no bearing on the result.

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          The second yellow card for Duffie presumably for him flying in for an attempted tackle, which looked like no arms and then knees into the back of the Stormers guy, which Duffie tried to pull out of at the last moment, completely unintentional and didn't look malicious or harmful, perhaps a bit clumsy, card probably a bit harsh but not impossible.

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            The second yellow card for Duffie presumably for him flying in for an attempted tackle, which looked like no arms and then knees into the back of the Stormers guy, which Duffie tried to pull out of at the last moment, completely unintentional and didn't look malicious or harmful, perhaps a bit clumsy, card probably a bit harsh but not impossible.

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            @infidel

            Just saw the replay.
            Disagree pretty strongly with the decision to sin bin him. Kolbe was going to get to his feet but saw Duffie coming so tried to duck him!

            Terrible decision.

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              Only saw highlights but looked like ref had a mare. Stormers players seemed to quite regularly play the ball even though tackled.

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                Treeby's tackle was a stiff arm to the jaw that knocked the player out. Clear red card.

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                • TordahT Tordah

                  wow, Matt Duffie with the most ridiculous RC I've seen in quite a while, neither of his YCs were even penalties IMO (he wasn't offside for the first, and the second was not a penalty - unless you get penalised for playing against a fucking midget who cries when someone runs into him)

                  Or what was the 2nd YC for? Had no sound but looked like a no incident to me

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                  @Tordah said in Stormers vs. Blues:

                  wow, Matt Duffie with the most ridiculous RC I've seen in quite a while, neither of his YCs were even penalties IMO (he wasn't offside for the first, and the second was not a penalty - unless you get penalised for playing against a fucking midget who cries when someone runs into him)

                  Or what was the 2nd YC for? Had no sound but looked like a no incident to me

                  His first yellow was a team yellow. It was given after multiple penalties conceded by the Blues. He was just the unlucky one to get the card.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Treeby's tackle was a stiff arm to the jaw that knocked the player out. Clear red card.

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                    @Tim at least a yellow.

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                      What a shitty game. Blues were in it until the last 10 or so.
                      Ref went a good deal of the way to help the Stormers. who were flying in off their feet at every ruck. Should have been at least a couple more YCs for Stormers in that 2nd half.
                      Disappointed with SBW who should have rallied the troops and led by example, but instead dropped the ball cold a couple of times, preferred to get involved in handbags(playing right into the Stormers hands) and carried away from support too often, to find himself isolated
                      Red cards this season are a bloody joke.
                      Tana needs to go shopping for a decent first five - and sharpish. Gatland is just plain rubbish.

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                        What a shitty game. Blues were in it until the last 10 or so.
                        Ref went a good deal of the way to help the Stormers. who were flying in off their feet at every ruck. Should have been at least a couple more YCs for Stormers in that 2nd half.
                        Disappointed with SBW who should have rallied the troops and led by example, but instead dropped the ball cold a couple of times, preferred to get involved in handbags(playing right into the Stormers hands) and carried away from support too often, to find himself isolated
                        Red cards this season are a bloody joke.
                        Tana needs to go shopping for a decent first five - and sharpish. Gatland is just plain rubbish.

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                        @Crash said in Stormers vs. Blues:

                        Tana needs to go shopping for a decent first five - and sharpish. Gatland is just plain rubbish.

                        Yeah Gatland didnt offer a hell of a lot when he came on. I thought the Blues lost a lot of shape when Francis came off.

                        Assuming Perofeta can get through club rugby today unscathed I think its time to him to be given some game time in these last few games.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Good intensity by the Stormers. Completely different side to the one that got bitch slapped in the South Island.
                          Gibson and Faumuina the Blues best. Ofa went well too I thought at loosehead. That's probably the Blues season gone. So close yet so far as it relates to being a contender. Some of the reffing calls were outrageously bad but Blues only have themselves to blame.

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                          @KiwiMurph Fully agree. You're always up against it in SA with the officiating but the players/coaches should know this and not give the officials reasons to penalise us in the first place.

                          SBW dropping the ball hot on attack when we were up 19-10 was a game changer imo.

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                            I can't believe that some of you are already writing Gatland off and saying he's rubbish. He's only 141 minutes of Super Rugby under his belt. I'd give him more than one season before writing him off and give him a chance to learn and develop further. Geez

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                              I can't believe that some of you are already writing Gatland off and saying he's rubbish. He's only 141 minutes of Super Rugby under his belt. I'd give him more than one season before writing him off and give him a chance to learn and develop further. Geez

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                              @Stargazer My point was Perofeta was picked in the Blues squad ahead of Gatland for a reason. I want to see what he's got. From the little i've seen he looks very promising.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Stargazer My point was Perofeta was picked in the Blues squad ahead of Gatland for a reason. I want to see what he's got. From the little i've seen he looks very promising.

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                                @KiwiMurph I wasn't just responding to you, though.

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                                  https://i.imgur.com/acMity3.gifv

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                                    The play that led to Duffie's second yellow was pretty reckless. Stormers player still on the ground and you dive in off your feet is a penalty. You dive in knees first into the ribs like that and that is dangerous play.

                                    But the Blues still had their chances. They looked good in bursts, they're just lacking that consistency which often allows their opppsition to get back into the game or keep it close.

                                    The Stormers have to be one of the worst attacking teams in Super rugby. They were pretty good defensively, but their attack has so little variation. It wasn't surprising to see passes being shelled by fatties because it was like shock that they were even receiving them.

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                                      That's at least a yellow, but probably a red. I can't believe that he didn't get anything for that. Did it go to the TMO.

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                                      • DamoD Damo

                                        That's at least a yellow, but probably a red. I can't believe that he didn't get anything for that. Did it go to the TMO.

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                                        @Damo Yep it went to the TMO. That the TMO was Veldsman probably explains a lot.

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                                          @Damo Yep it went to the TMO. That the TMO was Veldsman probably explains a lot.

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                                          @KiwiMurph He's a shocker. He should be thrown out of the game.

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