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  • No QuarterN Online
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    Good article, though she says it's a polarizing debate which I guess technically it is, as there is little middle ground, but I generally associate that with a more 50/50 split. This is more like a 95/5 split with people like Lance O'Sullivan trying to ensure the 5 doesn't grow any further as that would have serious implications.

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    Another opinion piece which I quite enjoyed.

    I feel a bit like the anti-Winger posting up articles which confirm my bias ...

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11863109

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    @booboo said in Woo:

    Another opinion piece which I quite enjoyed.

    I feel a bit like the anti-Winger posting up articles which confirm my bias ...

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11863109

    It's not bias mate. It's science

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    @canefan science schmience...mothers know best!

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    I bet that's what Charlotte's mum thinks every time she asks her where her limbs went

    Charlotte Cleverley-Bisman - Wikipedia

    Charlotte Cleverley-Bisman - Wikipedia
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    Not to denigrate the validity of Toby Manhires oped (he has to be right sometimes) but WTF is going on with the proof editing

    I remember one especially long, anguished and beer-soaked argument about vaccination, in a pub in Leytonstone, East London, I remember one especially long, anguished and beer-soaked argument about vaccination, in a pub in Leytonstone, East London, at some point in the middle of the last century

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    @canefan said in Woo:

    @booboo said in Woo:

    Another opinion piece which I quite enjoyed.

    I feel a bit like the anti-Winger posting up articles which confirm my bias ...

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11863109

    It's not bias mate. It's science

    I'm biased towards science.

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    @dogmeat said in Woo:

    Not to denigrate the validity of Toby Manhires oped (he has to be right sometimes) but WTF is going on with the proof editing

    I remember one especially long, anguished and beer-soaked argument about vaccination, in a pub in Leytonstone, East London, I remember one especially long, anguished and beer-soaked argument about vaccination, in a pub in Leytonstone, East London, at some point in the middle of the last century

    I took that as humour suggesting he is old

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    @No-Quarter said in Woo:

    Good article, though she says it's a polarizing debate which I guess technically it is, as there is little middle ground, but I generally associate that with a more 50/50 split. This is more like a 95/5 split with people like Lance O'Sullivan trying to ensure the 5 doesn't grow any further as that would have serious implications.

    The Monkey Cage's take on balance:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017m14t

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    @Tim are you familiar with this?

    CimaVax-EGF - Wikipedia

    Was just watching a news piece about it, looks promising.

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  • TimT Away
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    I'm familiar with EGFR as a target, but not that particular vaccine.

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    Ding! Ding! Ding! Loonies v1,000,000.

    The epicentre here is Raglan, a haven for hippies, lifestyle block socialists and other people with a loose grasp on reality.

    The activist here is a midwife of 25 years' experience who is currently "on leave" from the vocation. Sure, she made her own decision to be "on leave".

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11873050

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  • V Do not disturb
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    Virgil
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    Shit like that should never be anywhere near a school
    Great that common sense (something anti vaxers clearly lack) prevailed but it should never had been considered to be viewed there in the first place.

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    A midwife pushing that shit? No wonder some families start off on the wrong foot.

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    @Donsteppa midwives are a funny bunch anyway. The whole la leche anything other than breastfeeding is a mortal sin act is abusive

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    Midwifery has a decent amount of these sort of loons within it unfortunately, North and South did a story a couple of years back about the avoidable deaths and bad advice midwives had been responsible for and the Midwives council filed a complaint about it. Not because there was anything inaccurate in the article-but because the way the baby was held on the cover was not recommended. I think the midwives council is part of the problem, they go into bat for the loons when the babies health should be their number one concern.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11507845
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/68674972/discredited-vaccine-advice-endangers-babies

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  • V Do not disturb
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    Ours was great but yup there's plenty of loony ones out there.
    Have to watch your back with the odd one too..

    Health and Disability Commission describes midwife's actions "as a severe breach of trust".
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92124354/A-midwife-has-been-censured-for-having-an-affair-with-clients-husband?cid=app-iPhone

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    @Virgil when I heard about that the first thing I thought of was the time I went to a joinery factory looking for the boss , one of the guys there told me he was at his lawyer because he was getting divorced. Turned out she'd been cheating on him and he found out, she told him it was because he was always at work and never there for her so they went to relationship councilling.
    He caught her rooting the councillor , when I picked my jaw up off the floor I said he must have been gutted, according to his worker the boss was stoked to find out he's all good and she's just a lying trollop .

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    John Oliver did something useful for a change and pointed out the idiocy of the pro disease nutters and the halfwits that still believe Wakefield .

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    John Oliver did something useful for a change and pointed out the idiocy of the pro disease nutters and the halfwits that still believe Wakefield .

    He's always taken shots at that crowd.

    I'm sure if you went through all his shows and weighed up his topics you'd find yourself agreeing with more than what you'd disagree with - despite your political leanings.

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